[MassHistPres] Architectural Shingles

Wed Jun 28 14:35:13 EDT 2006

Good point.

My recollection is that a lot of those pre WW II asphalt roofs tended  
to be slate red and slate green which are not so much in favor today  
but which might be more authentic for houses that were new to that  
period.

Dennis De Witt

On Jun 27, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Cupfish Cupfish wrote:

> Two trivial asides:
>
> 1) The discussions re: solar shingles and asphalt shingles are  
> timely.  We
> are reroofing our 1940 Central Mass farmhouse. Choice of material  
> is not
> easy. The orignal shingles on the house and all outbuildings are red
> 3-tabbed asphalt.  Tho the architectural shingles might look snappy  
> I'm
> sticking with the farmer's orginal choice.  The house also has  
> godawful
> solar panels that heat the hot water.  I now covet the sunsolar  
> shingles for
> the south-facing roofs.
>
> 2) I find this board a valuable and educative forum.  Thanks to all  
> for your
> knowledge.
>
> Anne Cody Kornitsky
> Oakham MA
> 508.882.3777
>
>> From: "Jeffrey Gonyeau" <jtg at historicboston.org>
>> To: "'Sullivan, Charles M.'"
>> <csullivan at cambridgema.gov>,<sbragdon at comcast.net>,
>> <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
>> CC: HDC at acton-ma.gov
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Architectural Shingles
>> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:26:48 -0400
>>
>> I have just approved a product manufactured by CertainTeed for a  
>> mansard
>> roof installation. The line is called "Hatteras" and it is a 40-yr,
>> single-layer (i.e. not built-up, "architectural"), three-tab asphalt
>> product
>> whose tabs have a vertical proportion that is more similar to  
>> slate tiles
>> than typical three-tab shingles.
>>
>> We chose a dark, charcoal/green color ("Stormy Night") and  
>> specified that
>> they be installed with a reveal a bit smaller than that  
>> recommended by the
>> manufacturer, which diminishes the slightly-too-dramatic, built-in  
>> shadow
>> effect in the shingle aggregate coloring that attempts to make  
>> them appear
>> more three-dimensional.
>>
>> It's very interesting to see the existing conventional three-tabs  
>> next to
>> the new shingles on the mansard and to observe how the relatively  
>> shallow
>> reveal and horizontal emphasis of the older material affects one's
>> perception of the height and proportions of the mansard.
>>
>> The CertainTeed website is www.certainteed.com if you'd like to  
>> check out
>> the product.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeffrey Gonyeau
>>
>> ********************
>> Jeffrey Gonyeau
>> Senior Project Manager
>>
>> Historic Boston Incorporated
>> 3 School Street
>> Boston, MA 02108
>> Tel. (617) 227-4679
>> Fax (617) 742-7431
>> jtg at historicboston.org
>> www.historicboston.org
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu
>> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Sullivan,  
>> Charles M.
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:15 PM
>> To: sbragdon at comcast.net; masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>> Cc: HDC at acton-ma.gov
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Architectural Shingles
>>
>> We also strongly prefer conventional three-tab shingles,  
>> preferably in a
>> neutral color like charcoal (not black), and we require an  
>> application for
>> a
>> Certificate if the owner wants to install anything else.
>>
>> Architectural shingles are a relatively recent innovation that make a
>> modern
>> design statement; they don't really resemble any traditional  
>> material like
>> wood or slate. Three-tabs are innocuous and have been around since  
>> the
>> early
>> 20th century.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Charles M. Sullivan, Executive Director
>> Cambridge Historical Commission
>> 831 Massachusetts Avenue
>> Cambridge, Mass.  02139
>> 617 349-4684 voice, 349-3116 fax
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu
>> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu]On Behalf Of Anne Forbes
>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:26 PM
>> To: sbragdon at comcast.net; masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>> Cc: HDC at acton-ma.gov
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Architectural Shingles
>>
>>
>> Susan--
>>
>> The Acton bylaw includes the exclusions for in-kind replacement or  
>> "color
>> of
>>
>> material used on roofs," but if an applicant wants to replace 3-tab
>> shingles
>>
>> with "architectural," our commission does require an application  
>> and a
>> Certificate of Appropriateness.
>>
>> Since there are many different styles, we ask to see samples and/or
>> manufacturers' cut sheets.  Then we approve a shingle that we feel is
>> reasonably compatible with the character of the building and the  
>> district,
>> but at the same time we make it clear that 3-tab shingles are  
>> preferred.
>> (Though I've heard that fewer manufacturers will be making them in  
>> the
>> future.)
>>
>> Anne Forbes
>> Acton HDC
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Susan Bragdon" <sbragdon at comcast.net>
>> To: <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:33 AM
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Architectural Shingles
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I am looking for input as to other Historic Districts feelings on
>>> architectural shingles vs the 3 tab asphalt.  I am on the Marblehead
>>> Historic Districts Commission and more and more people are  
>>> looking for
>> the
>>> AS.  Any input would be great.  Thank you.
>>>
>>> Susan Bragdon
>>> Marblehead Historic Districts Commission Member
>>>
>>>
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