[MassHistPres] Auxiliary Members of HDC

Mon Apr 2 11:58:32 EDT 2007

In our view, the HDC can appoint non-voting associate members (we  have done 
that in the past) without amending the by-law.  Such members can participate 
but not vote.

J. Worden
Arlington HDC

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> Our by-law provides that the Selectmen may appoint alternate commission
> members (we don't have any of those right now); the by-law also provides
> that all the members of the Arlington Historical Commission are alternate
> members.
>
> In addition, since we have 7 commissions (all of which meet & deliberate
> together), the resident/property owner member of each commission is
> automatically an alternate member of the other six commissions.  The
> chairman designates which alternate(s) will serve for a particular 
> meeting,
> so that any commission having a hearing will have a full complement.
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> So, the answer is that your by-law should make the provision.
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> J. Worden
> Arlington HDC
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>>   5. Re: CPA Surcharge Reductions (George Bacon)
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:58:14 -0400
>> From: "Matthew B. Bronski" <MBBronski at sgh.com>
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] auxiliary commissioners
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>> Can a Commission that does not have auxiliary members (non-voting)
>> create that position by a simple vote of the Commission, as part of
>> their policies and procedures?  Or is there more involved in creating
>> the position, like a new or amended Town Bylaw?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matthew Bronski, Winchester Historical Commission
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:13:16 -0400
>> From: Jonathan Feist <jfeist at charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] auxiliary commissioners
>> To: "Matthew B. Bronski" <MBBronski at sgh.com>,
>> <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
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>> In Harvard, the number and sources of our membership are scripted in the
>> town bylaws, so changing this would require a town meeting vote.
>>
>> --Jonathan Feist, Harvard Historical Commission
>>
>>
>> on 3/28/07 2:58 PM, Matthew B. Bronski at MBBronski at sgh.com wrote:
>>
>>> Can a Commission that does not have auxiliary members (non-voting)
>>> create that position by a simple vote of the Commission, as part of
>>> their policies and procedures?  Or is there more involved in creating
>>> the position, like a new or amended Town Bylaw?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Matthew Bronski, Winchester Historical Commission
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:07:32 -0400
>> From: RUTH WALES <ruthwales at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] auxiliary commissioners
>> To: Jonathan Feist <jfeist at charter.net>
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>> That's true in Lincoln also.
>>
>> Ruth Wales, Lincoln Historical Commission
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>> On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Feist wrote:
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>>> In Harvard, the number and sources of our membership are scripted
>>> in the
>>> town bylaws, so changing this would require a town meeting vote.
>>>
>>> --Jonathan Feist, Harvard Historical Commission
>>>
>>>
>>> on 3/28/07 2:58 PM, Matthew B. Bronski at MBBronski at sgh.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can a Commission that does not have auxiliary members (non-voting)
>>>> create that position by a simple vote of the Commission, as part of
>>>> their policies and procedures?  Or is there more involved in creating
>>>> the position, like a new or amended Town Bylaw?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Matthew Bronski, Winchester Historical Commission
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:12:09 -0400
>> From: "melanie deware" <smdeware at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] auxiliary commissioners
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:54:19 -0400
>> From: George Bacon <gbacon at net1plus.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] CPA Surcharge Reductions
>> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
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>> The town of Ayer reduced its surcharge from 3% to 1%.  The change was
>> organized by those who opposed its original passage.  They were able
>> to turn out enough votes at town meeting and the polls to get the
>> reduction passed (The town has a population of about 7,000 so it
>> doesn't take a lot)  Unfortunately the CPA supporters did not turn
>> out in sufficient numbers.
>>
>> In financially difficult times, people tend not to care about long
>> term advantages.  You can show them how much more they will get in
>> matching funds, but that doesn't seem to persuade them when they are
>> looking at a tax increase this year.  Even though we have funded some
>> very worthwhile projects, I don't believe we could pass an increase
>> in the surcharge any time soon.
>>
>> George Bacon
>> Ayer Historical Commission
>>
>> At 05:50 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone been involved with a town that has chosen to reduce its CPA
>>>surcharge?  If so, were they successful?
>>>
>>>What were the reasons behind the attempt's success or defeat?
>>>
>>>Kingston is facing a challenge to its 3% CPA surcharge at its upcoming
>>>town
>>>meeting.
>>>
>>>Proposed by the town's Finance Committee, in an attempt to help pass a
>>>$1.3
>>>million override, they have proposed reducing our current 3% CPA to 1%.
>>>
>>>A group of citizens opposed to this reduction are looking for ways,
>>>arguments, examples how to prevent this.
>>>
>>>Should you have any ideas, or practical experiences, please let me know 
>>>at
>>>cdalton at maritime.edu
>>>
>>>Thank you for your help.
>>>
>>>Craig Dalton
>>>Kingston Historical Commission
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:04:13 -0400
>> From: George Bacon <gbacon at net1plus.com>
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Parking Facilities
>> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
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>> The town of Ayer (pop approx. 7,000) is debating whether to build a
>> parking garage to support its commuter rail station.  The garage
>> would be located adjacent to the Downtown Mercantile District which
>> is on the National Register.  The project is still in the preliminary
>> phases, and a design has not yet been created.  There is much concern
>> that a garage would be way out of scale with the nearby 19th century
>> buildings.
>>
>> It would be helpful if we had examples of garages that blend in with
>> the nearby architecture.  Does anyone know of well designed parking
>> facilities that are visually compatible with  surrounding older 
>> buildings?
>>
>> George Bacon
>> Ayer Historical Commission
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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:33:22 -0400
> From: p schneider <schnei at massmed.org>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] auxiliary commissioners
> To: "Matthew B. Bronski" <MBBronski at sgh.com>
> Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
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> I think there may be some confusion, in usage, between "auxiliary" and
> "alternate" members. When you write that the auxiliary members are
> non-voting does that mean that they never vote?
>
> In Worcester, we have "alternate" members (defined by our bylaws) who
> vote, in order to provide a quorum, only when regular members are
> absent. Since our alternate members do have an official vote at times,
> they are appointed by our city manager following the same procedures as
> appointing full members. If "auxiliary" members never vote, I would
> think they could be invited by the Commission to attend meetings and
> voice opinions much as any member of the general public can.
>
> Peter Schneider
> Worcester Historical Commission
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> Matthew B. Bronski wrote:
>> Can a Commission that does not have auxiliary members (non-voting)
>> create that position by a simple vote of the Commission, as part of
>> their policies and procedures?  Or is there more involved in creating
>> the position, like a new or amended Town Bylaw?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matthew Bronski, Winchester Historical Commission
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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:47:57 -0500
> From: Carol Carlson <cmcarl at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] alternate HDC com'rs
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