[MassHistPres] contractor referrals
John Worden
jworden at swwalaw.com
Mon Apr 23 16:44:21 EDT 2007
We make it a point not to refer or recommend contractors, although we do
provide names of people who have done work in the districts - particularly
we have provided info on companies that restore old windows.
J. Worden
Arlington HDC
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> 1. Referrals for contractors (Bufffive at aol.com)
> 2. Change of email address (Carol Carlson)
> 3. Re: Referrals for contractors (Alison Hardy, Window Woman)
> 4. Re: Referrals for contractors (Dennis De Witt)
> 5. Re: Referrals for contractors (James Hadley)
> 6. Re: Referrals for contractors (walter eayrs)
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> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:49:03 EDT
> From: Bufffive at aol.com
> Subject: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
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> We have recently in Wellesley had a request for a referral for
> contractors
> that are sensitive to historical buildings. I am wondering if any of you
> have
> a list? We've been going back and forth in our Commission about the pros
> and
> cons of having this type of thing and are wondering how other communities
> handle this.. We worry about sounding like we are recommending someone. I
> know
> Preservation Mass has one but am not sure how they were obtained or how
> extensive it is.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Linda Buffum
>
> Chairman
> Wellesley Historical Commission
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:23:23 -0400
> From: Carol Carlson <cmcarl at mindspring.com>
> Subject: [MassHistPres] Change of email address
> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
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> Kindly change my email address from
> cmcarl at mindspring.com
>
> TO:
>
> carolmcarl at comcast.net
>
> Thanks!
> Carol M. Carlson
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Alison Hardy, Window Woman" <ahardy at window-woman-ne.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
> To: Bufffive at aol.com, masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
> Message-ID: <308159.32342.qm at web807.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Historic New England has a list, not sure if they are willing to share, or
> perhaps its as simple as suggesting homeowners joing HNE to get the
> guidance they need.
>
> My take is if a Commission is going to suggest that someone do something
> to preserve a property they should have some idea where the homeowner can
> go to look for the right kind of contractor. Sometimes it's as simple as
> saying "look in the yellow pages for a stone mason" because many
> homeowners won't even think to do that. There are also directories of
> preservation specialists like www.historicpreservation.com or
> www.tradbuilding.com that can at least point people in the right
> direction. I think giving guidance is better than throwing a homeowner out
> in the cold looking for a service provider and wondering why they resent
> the HC.
>
> Alison Hardy
> Topsfield Historic Commission and
> Window Woman of New England
>
> Bufffive at aol.com wrote: We have recently in Wellesley had a request for a
> referral for contractors
> that are sensitive to historical buildings. I am wondering if any of you
> have
> a list? We've been going back and forth in our Commission about the pros
> and
> cons of having this type of thing and are wondering how other communities
> handle this.. We worry about sounding like we are recommending someone. I
> know
> Preservation Mass has one but am not sure how they were obtained or how
> extensive it is.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Linda Buffum
>
> Chairman
> Wellesley Historical Commission
>
>
>
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> Alison Hardy
> Window Woman of New England
> www.window-woman-ne.com
> 978-561-1062
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:02:09 -0400
> From: Dennis De Witt <djdewitt at rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
> To: MHC listserve <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
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> If asked Brookline will give names (multiple, if possible) of people
> who have done work in LHDs. This is particularly important for
> specialty work, like historic window repair, where the applicant may
> not know where to go.
>
> Dennis De Witt
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Alison Hardy, Window Woman wrote:
>
>> Historic New England has a list, not sure if they are willing to
>> share, or perhaps its as simple as suggesting homeowners joing HNE
>> to get the guidance they need.
>>
>> My take is if a Commission is going to suggest that someone do
>> something to preserve a property they should have some idea where
>> the homeowner can go to look for the right kind of contractor.
>> Sometimes it's as simple as saying "look in the yellow pages for a
>> stone mason" because many homeowners won't even think to do that.
>> There are also directories of preservation specialists like
>> www.historicpreservation.com or www.tradbuilding.com that can at
>> least point people in the right direction. I think giving guidance
>> is better than throwing a homeowner out in the cold looking for a
>> service provider and wondering why they resent the HC.
>>
>> Alison Hardy
>> Topsfield Historic Commission and
>> Window Woman of New England
>>
>> Bufffive at aol.com wrote: We have recently in Wellesley had a request
>> for a referral for contractors
>> that are sensitive to historical buildings. I am wondering if any
>> of you have
>> a list? We've been going back and forth in our Commission about
>> the pros and
>> cons of having this type of thing and are wondering how other
>> communities
>> handle this.. We worry about sounding like we are recommending
>> someone. I know
>> Preservation Mass has one but am not sure how they were obtained
>> or how
>> extensive it is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Linda Buffum
>>
>> Chairman
>> Wellesley Historical Commission
>>
>>
>>
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>> www.aol.com.
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>>
>>
>> Alison Hardy
>> Window Woman of New England
>> www.window-woman-ne.com
>> 978-561-1062
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:37:51 -0400
> From: "James Hadley" <jameswhadley at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
> To: <Bufffive at aol.com>, <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
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> Has anyone out there ever heard of using consultants to direct the work of
> contractors? This discussion displays an attitude central to the problems
> of
> maintaining preservation quality.
> Please Note - first you develop a first class analysis of the problem;
> then
> you develop a thoughtful solution to the problem; following these crucial
> steps, then and only then, do you call in a contractor. Perhaps the
> writer(s) already have plans and specifications prepared, but I can't
> believe they would be casting around for good contractors had they done
> so.
> PreservatiONMASS maintains a list of qualified consultants. These people/
> firms are advocates for the owner and client; they develop estimates based
> on the scope of the project and the budget for the work, and advise on
> qualified contractors to do the work.
> Our hiscom finds itself continually cleaning up proposals from contractors
> hired by local groups to do work funded by the CPA in Town. In general no
> research has been done prior to preparing a cost for work, leading to
> either
> cost overruns, damage to historic fabric or conficts with building codes.
> (Yes, all of these have come up in our reviews.)
> James Hadley AIA, BSA. President, Orleans Historical Society; Chair,
> Orleans Historical Commission.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bufffive at aol.com>
> To: <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:49 PM
> Subject: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
>
>
>> We have recently in Wellesley had a request for a referral for
>> contractors
>> that are sensitive to historical buildings. I am wondering if any of you
>> have
>> a list? We've been going back and forth in our Commission about the pros
>> and
>> cons of having this type of thing and are wondering how other
>> communities
>> handle this.. We worry about sounding like we are recommending someone.
>> I
>> know
>> Preservation Mass has one but am not sure how they were obtained or how
>> extensive it is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Linda Buffum
>>
>> Chairman
>> Wellesley Historical Commission
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************** See what's free at
>> http://www.aol.com.
>> ******************************
>> For administrative questions regarding this list, please contact
>> Christopher.Skelly at state.ma.us directly. PLEASE DO NOT "REPLY" TO THE
>> WHOLE LIST.
>> MassHistPres mailing list
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>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: walter eayrs <w_eayrs at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
> To: James Hadley <jameswhadley at hotmail.com>, Bufffive at aol.com,
> masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
> Message-ID: <208809.32115.qm at web53706.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> There are several excellent online sources for
> Historic Preservation referrals. A great place to
> start is the consultant list maintained by
> Preservation Mass.
>
> www.preservationmass.org/consultants.shtml
>
> Perhaps the best site I have found for local
> restoration referrals and information about
> preservation professionals is "TradWeb" put together
> by the folks at Traditional Builder Magazine
>
> www.restorationandbuildingservices.com
>
> This site offers a wealth of information about
> preservation and allows visitors to search by specific
> services and regional locations.
>
> Good Luck, Walter Eayrs
> Blackburn Restoration Services LLC
> --- James Hadley <jameswhadley at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone out there ever heard of using consultants
>> to direct the work of
>> contractors? This discussion displays an attitude
>> central to the problems of
>> maintaining preservation quality.
>> Please Note - first you develop a first class
>> analysis of the problem; then
>> you develop a thoughtful solution to the problem;
>> following these crucial
>> steps, then and only then, do you call in a
>> contractor. Perhaps the
>> writer(s) already have plans and specifications
>> prepared, but I can't
>> believe they would be casting around for good
>> contractors had they done so.
>> PreservatiONMASS maintains a list of qualified
>> consultants. These people/
>> firms are advocates for the owner and client; they
>> develop estimates based
>> on the scope of the project and the budget for the
>> work, and advise on
>> qualified contractors to do the work.
>> Our hiscom finds itself continually cleaning up
>> proposals from contractors
>> hired by local groups to do work funded by the CPA
>> in Town. In general no
>> research has been done prior to preparing a cost for
>> work, leading to either
>> cost overruns, damage to historic fabric or conficts
>> with building codes.
>> (Yes, all of these have come up in our reviews.)
>> James Hadley AIA, BSA. President, Orleans
>> Historical Society; Chair,
>> Orleans Historical Commission.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Bufffive at aol.com>
>> To: <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:49 PM
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Referrals for contractors
>>
>>
>> > We have recently in Wellesley had a request for a
>> referral for
>> > contractors
>> > that are sensitive to historical buildings. I am
>> wondering if any of you
>> > have
>> > a list? We've been going back and forth in our
>> Commission about the pros
>> > and
>> > cons of having this type of thing and are
>> wondering how other communities
>> > handle this.. We worry about sounding like we are
>> recommending someone. I
>> > know
>> > Preservation Mass has one but am not sure how they
>> were obtained or how
>> > extensive it is.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Linda Buffum
>> >
>> > Chairman
>> > Wellesley Historical Commission
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ************************************** See what's
>> free at
>> > http://www.aol.com.
>> > ******************************
>> > For administrative questions regarding this list,
>> please contact
>> > Christopher.Skelly at state.ma.us directly. PLEASE
>> DO NOT "REPLY" TO THE
>> > WHOLE LIST.
>> > MassHistPres mailing list
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>>
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