[MassHistPres] historic homes plaques

Tue Mar 18 15:28:20 EDT 2008

Plaque 'em.

Jonathan Tucker
Planning Director
Town Hall, 4 Boltwood Ave.
Amherst, MA  01002
(413) 259-3040
(413) 259-2410 [fax]
tuckerj at amherstma.gov   

-----Original Message-----
From: James Hadley [mailto:jameswhadley at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Marcia Starkey; Tucker, Jonathan; Jonathan Feist;
masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] historic homes plaques

It's nice to be theoretical about this, and it's interesting, but here
on 
Cape Cod the conflict between the cultural landscape and the
recreational 
landscape has reached the point where any and all resources must be
brought 
to bear to preserve the historic building stock. The Town of Chatham has

lost over 50 historic house in less than a decade.  We get the fallout
from 
the Hamptons, second homers from Boston, Cambridge, Toronto (yes) and 
retirees from all over. Beaches, yacht clubs and golf courses are more 
important to many of these "settlers" than the sense of history that can

still be sensed in corners and stretches of our lands. We're bailing in 
every way that is available, and plaques as well as National Register 
Historic Districts are ways of dealing with the problem.
James Hadley, Chair, Orleans Historical Commission
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcia Starkey" <mdstarkey at crocker.com>
To: "Tucker, Jonathan" <TuckerJ at amherstma.gov>; "Jonathan Feist" 
<jfeist at charter.net>; <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] historic homes plaques

> Hello Jonathan,
> A thoughful message that raises in my mind the problems that are
worsened
> when public education neglects to include subjects such as history and
> government for the broad spectrum of citizens. Some argue that the 
> economic
> system is our major problem by overdeveloping the consumer culture.
>
> If we look at the mental landscape of non-historians/preservationists
I
> think we see a different view of change, with historic places well
> integrated in the total scene.
>
> When we focus on the local community it can become a way to think
through
> choices and realities, and it can support community-building through
> familiarity with places and their meaning over time. The teachers here
are
> the older residents. But all of this must find a place in busy lives
and
> more pressing needs of adults..not easy to do. I guess this is
obvious.
>
> Marcia Starkey, Greenfield
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tucker, Jonathan" <TuckerJ at amherstma.gov>
> To: "Jonathan Feist" <jfeist at charter.net>; <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] historic homes plaques
>
>
>> Alternatively, you could look at it as an opportunity to invest the
>> owners of those houses with pride and knowledge they might otherwise
not
>> have had,  turning them into conscious custodians of that heritage.
>> There's nothing wrong with bragging, if what you say is true.
[Walter
>> Brennan, in a cheap 70s western television series about a
family--father
>> and sons--of reluctant fast-draw artists, speaking modestly of their
>> skill: "No brag, jest fact".]
>>
>> I agree with your concern, though.  There is a very conservative (but
>> very smart, otherwise) British writer, Roger Sluton, who rails
against
>> the creep of the forces of "heritage" across the rural landscape of
>> Britain, when what government really should be doing (he asserts) is
>> supporting the property owners and traditional, resource-based rural
>> economic activities.  He believes that keeping historic places alive,
>> economically viable, and functioning as they always have will do a
>> better job of preserving what is really important about such
landscapes
>> than facilitating their slow morph into preservation theme parks for
>> those with the discretionary income to participate in cultural
tourism.
>>
>> The problem with his analysis, which is very compelling otherwise, is
>> that rural folks are, rightly, highly pragmatic and focused on their
own
>> near-term needs.  That's why some of the worst losses of historical
>> fabric we encounter are what generations of farmers (or millworkers
or
>> merchants, etc.) have done to their houses, barns and workplaces out
of
>> economic necessity.  There is an unavoidable and damning correlation
>> between economic class distinctions and the preservation of important
>> historic fabric.  If we support preservation over other priorities,
we
>> need to understand that we are to an extent taking sides in the class
>> wars.
>>
>> Jonathan Tucker
>> Planning Director
>> Town Hall, 4 Boltwood Ave.
>> Amherst, MA  01002
>> (413) 259-3040
>> (413) 259-2410 [fax]
>> tuckerj at amherstma.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu
>> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Feist
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:06 AM
>> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] historic homes plaques
>>
>> This is probably a good idea, and I'm probably just being a
>> stick-in-the-mud
>> about it, but I have mixed feelings, both as a HDC chair and the
owner
>> of
>> the:
>>
>>    Harvard Shaker Meetinghouse
>>    1791
>>
>> On one hand, it raises awareness of the town's historical
significance.
>>
>> On the other hand, it's a little like having a painting and writing
>> "cow,"
>> "house," "tree," etc. with arrows pointing at the different elements.
>> And
>> it's a little like bragging, too. Does it inspire burglaring?
>>
>> It's a step away from being a real place and towards being a living
>> history
>> museum, and that aspect of it doesn't sit well with me. I want beauty
to
>> be
>> normal, not just for special occasions.
>>
>> A solution that's been discussed here is to have a sign at one end of
>> the
>> village with all structures labeled. That's a little better, I guess.
>>
>> --Jonathan
>>
>>
>> ===============================================
>>
>> Jonathan Feist, Chair
>> Harvard Historical Commission
>> 978-772-4864 (home)
>> 617-747-2148 (Berklee office)
>>
>> Preserve Historical Harvard, MA:
>> http://harvard.ma.us/histcomm.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on 3/6/08 2:36 PM, annsinclair14 at comcast.net at
>> annsinclair14 at comcast.net
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Orleans Historical Society is looking into establishing a
program
>> for
>>> plaques for historic homes.  We would appreciate information from
>> historical
>>> societies having such programs.  We would like to know what your
>>> guidelines/ctireria are.  Is there an application?  If so what does
it
>>> contain?  What do you charge?  How do you handle replacement of
>> plaques when
>>> they "wear out"?  What does the plaque look like.
>>> I would appreciate any information you can give me either by email
or
>> phone.
>>> Ann Sinclair
>>> Orleans Historical Society
>>> annsinclair at comcast .net
>>> 508-255-5371
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