[MassHistPres] new lead abatement EPA standards

Fri Apr 2 07:33:23 EDT 2010

I received my certification a few weeks ago and I have a lot of thoughts to
be honest some are good and some are bad.  The biggest problems I have, is
the timing of when they decided to start enforcing this rule and the amount
of plastic to be used.

A few bad apples out there ruined it for everyone.  My fear is these bad
apples are not the ones who are looking into this new law or taking the
class...

Regarding the "opt out", this can only be used up to April 22nd.  After
April 22nd there is not opt out clause.  Since everyone is waiting until the
April 22nd date to comply most people will not take advantage of the opt
out.  I find this a little silly.

Also the price the EPA came up with is based on the assumption everyone is
already following all these practices as they have been out for some time
now.  The only thing different is the record keeping. I am NOT saying I
agree just passing the message on.

Marc Cleary

Cleary and Son, Inc.

Office 781-893-0723

Fax 781-894-5672

1-800-893-0728

 <http://www.clearywindowrestoration.com> www.clearywindowrestoration.com

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[mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of jade
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:50 PM
To: heartwood restoration; BarbaraWales at realtor.com; djd184 at verizon.net
Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] new lead abatement EPA standards

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From: heartwood restoration <mailto:jade at heartwoodrestoration.com>  

To: BarbaraWales at realtor.com ; djd184 at verizon.net 

Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu 

Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:36 PM

Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] new lead abatement EPA standards

there is an 'opt-out-' clause for homeowners who undertake work on their
own...

check out this website:  www.epa.gov/lead 

i am certified and STILL find conflicting information regarding residential
work on homes built prior to 1978...some information refers to residences
with children under the age of 6, other information indicates that any
residence--with or without children--is subject to the new regulations...two
different instructors gave me two different answers...

the FAQ's in the above website indicate that additional costs incurred by
the contractor and passed on to the homeowner run from $8 to $167...a good
quality HEPA vac can easily cost over $400 and the reams of petroleum based
plastic sheeting costs will soon add up...to remove all furniture and wall
hangings from a room, lay plastic on the floor and part way up the wall,
tape off all doors and window sills, install a plastic door at the entry,
place DANGER signs at all entrances, vacuum all walls, horizontal surfaces
AND the plastic, clean all surfaces with a long handles 'wet' swiffer, roll
the plastic sheeting into itself and dispose in a plastic bag THEN dry swift
all surfaces will add significant time to any project...all that and then we
are to police ourselves by using the handy dandy laminated photo of a clean
swiffer and a dry swiffer to compare our swiffer once the clean up has been
completed...

barbara...the epa is 'working closely with the national association of
realtors'  to make y'all aware of the hazards of lead paint....check out the
nifty training videos on the epa site...

i know a number of people in the trades who will no longer work on
residential projects...it will be interesting to see how this all pans
out....

......jade

heartwood window restoration

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From: Barbara <mailto:barbarawales at verizon.net>  Wales 

To: djd184 at verizon.net 

Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu 

Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:46 PM

Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] new lead abatement EPA standards

Sorry to have fallen behind on the details..I'd like to catch up.... but how
does this affect the homeowner who likes to do his/her own painting?

And, what are the ripple effects (and thus liability of the owners and us
Realtors) when a house is sold and the homeowner painted the kids' bedrooms
himself?!?!?!

** Please excuse spelling errors, I may never adjust to this larger
keyboard! :- } 

Barbara Wales, GRI, ABR
C21 Commonwealth
29 Washington Street
Wellesley, MA 02481
BarbaraWales at realtor.com
Barbara.Wales at commonmoves.com

617-762-4073 (accessline-connects to mobile, accepts faxes, takes messages!)

Mar 29, 2010 04:36:34 PM, djd184 at verizon.net wrote:

Got this recently from a friend 

Our painter told me that he would need to add 15%-20% to his estimate for an
interior paint job to cover the costs of, at a minimum, setting up and
taking down containment areas, washing down all vertical and horizontal
elements, and Swifter-mopping all floors. New requirements include interior
tenting, only plastic -no fabric-  drop clothes, respirator masks and Tyvek
coveralls for painters, and special vacuum cleaners, each with two HEPA
filters.  Nat has already spent $2000 on his 8 hour training session, exam
fees, certification, and new equipment.  Still to come - training for six of
his painters. 

This is a guy we've known for years, and although he's not the cheapest
painter out there, his work is solid and his prices have always been fair.

Sounds like a horror story

Dennis De Witt

On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Lipsey, Ellen wrote:

Can anyone offer insight into the new EPA standards for contractors who
disturb lead paint on pre-1978 buildings -- specifically as to how the new
EPA requirements may affect the status quo in MA? The new requirements
involve the certification of contractors (based on taking a 2-hour training
course), treatment restrictions (that may already be good preservation
practice and required environmental practice in MA), and recordation
requirements.  This query is not intended to send out any alarms, none may
be warranted in terms of the changes.  In addition, this is a done deal as
many of you may know. The new EPA requirements for contractors have
undergone review and comments, and they take effect April 22nd.

Ellen J. Lipsey

Executive Director

Boston Landmarks Commission

City Hall, Room 805

Boston, MA 02201

617-635-3850 ph

617-635-3435 fax

ellen.lipsey at cityofboston.gov

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