[MassHistPres] Metal window restoration

Mark Landry landmark at gis.net
Mon Jan 11 12:09:00 EST 2010


Thanks, everyone,  for the info on metal windows!

Mark



On Jan 11, 2010, at 12:00 PM, masshistpres-request at cs.umb.edu wrote:

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> From: "Pat Patrick" <pat at oldtownrepair.com>
> Subject: [MassHistPres] Steel Windows
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> I did a cost/benefit report for a bank restoration in Lynn two years  
> ago.
> The cost was astronomical in all scenarios.  I wound up advising the
> existing windows be saved and repaired as long as they were  
> functional and
> safe.  So far, so good.
>
> I also have references to some reputable restorers if you like.
>
> James M Patrick
> OldTownRepair
> 2 Pleasant Ct., Gr. Fl. Shop
> Marblehead, MA 01945
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> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:04:41 -0500
> From: Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Metal window restoration
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> Brookline has a district which has some of these 1920-1930s  
> windows.  It's
> commission has in several cases reluctantly allowed replacement of  
> badly
> "rotted" steel casements with aluminum and pultruded fiberglass  
> casements
> (not wood) that closely mimic the originals on a de facto hardship  
> basis
> because
> a) the cost of repair is extremely high,
> b) ditto the cost of steel replacements
> c) unlike sash it is not practicable to apply storms that allow the
> casements to open that will also address the infiltration of existing
> windows.
> d) they primarily affect a smallish but significant minority of the  
> houses
> in one of five LHDs
>
> Such replacement windows are made for use in historic districts in  
> NYC where
> are are a lot of steel casements.  However, specific vendors have  
> appeared
> and disappeared.
>
> Dennis De Witt
>
>
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> On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Mark Landry wrote:
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>> I have a client with original 1930s metal casement windows that  
>> need help.
> They are drafty and tough to operate. The client asked me to price
> replacement windows but I want to explore restoration because wood  
> casements
> (which they asked about) will have much wider stiles and rails and  
> much
> smaller glass sizes.
>>
>> Has anyone found a Mass-based firm that restores metal windows?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark Landry
>> Landmark Services
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> From: "David Fixler" <dfixler at eypae.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Metal window restoration
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> Mark:
>
> I don't know of any Mass. based firms, but Seekircher Window  
> restoration
> (John Seekircher), who are in westchester Coutny NY and have done  
> work in
> this area (they did the Longwood Towers) are the gold standard in this
> industry.
>
> David
>
> EYP/
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> David Fixler, FAIA  LEED? AP
> Principal, Design and Preservation
>
> Einhorn Yaffee Prescott
> Architecture & Engineering P.C.
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> Telephone 617 305 9871
> Fax 617 305 9888
> Cell 617 733 4287
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> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Landry
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> Subject: [MassHistPres] Metal window restoration
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> I have a client with original 1930s metal casement windows that need
> help.  They are drafty and tough to operate. The client asked me to
> price replacement windows but I want to explore restoration because
> wood casements (which they asked about) will have much wider stiles
> and rails and much smaller glass sizes.
>
> Has anyone found a Mass-based firm that restores metal windows?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Landry
> Landmark Services
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> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:09:50 -0500
> From: "Marcia  Starkey" <mdstarkey at crocker.com>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Metal window restoration
> To: "David Fixler" <dfixler at eypae.com>, "Mark Landry"
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> The problem I believe Greenfield had with this firm was the cost of  
> a visit
> as basis for a quote.
> Marcia Starkey, GHC
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>> Mark:
>>
>> I don't know of any Mass. based firms, but Seekircher Window  
>> restoration
>> (John Seekircher), who are in westchester Coutny NY and have done  
>> work in
>> this area (they did the Longwood Towers) are the gold standard in  
>> this
>> industry.
>>
>> David
>>
>> EYP/
>>
>> David Fixler, FAIA  LEED? AP
>> Principal, Design and Preservation
>>
>> Einhorn Yaffee Prescott
>> Architecture & Engineering P.C.
>>
>> Telephone 617 305 9871
>> Fax 617 305 9888
>> Cell 617 733 4287
>>
>> eypae.com
>> expertise driven design
>>
>> ? Please consider the environment before printing this email
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu
>> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Landry
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:18 AM
>> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Metal window restoration
>>
>> I have a client with original 1930s metal casement windows that need
>> help.  They are drafty and tough to operate. The client asked me to
>> price replacement windows but I want to explore restoration because
>> wood casements (which they asked about) will have much wider stiles
>> and rails and much smaller glass sizes.
>>
>> Has anyone found a Mass-based firm that restores metal windows?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark Landry
>> Landmark Services
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