[MassHistPres] Court cases (Ralph Slate)
Pat Patrick
pat at oldtownrepair.com
Mon Sep 6 19:54:22 EDT 2010
In similar cases, the judge's sole responsibility and authority is to
adjudicate on the merits of the case, not a personal opinion. It sounds to
me like the judge was saying it seemed OK to him; work it out through
mediation or a similar process.
Why didn't your lawyer explain this to you? Your options and the judge's
authority should be clearly explained to you. Probe a little deeper and see
if the judge was saying to work it out.
Keep us posted please.
Pat Patrick
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Marblehead, MA 01945
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781.639.8024 F
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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:05:45 -0400
From: Ralph Slate <slater at alum.rpi.edu>
Subject: [MassHistPres] Court cases
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I was a little surprised to hear our city attorney recommending that
we accept an unpalatable settlement in a court case where a property
owner appealed the SHC's denial of a front yard fence on an empty lot.
Our attorney said that the judge in the case basically said that he
didn't think there was anything wrong with the fence, so he felt we
would lose the case.
I was under the impression that appeals to decisions did not trade the
opinions of historical commissions with the opinions of judges, that
historical commissions could set their own standards as long as they
were consistent with the statute. Yet here, we had a judge basically
saying that he thought the front yard fence was OK even though the SHC
has explicit guidelines that say that front yard fences are not
permissible (and this was an eight-foot high front yard fence).
Does anyone have any perspective on this?
Thanks,
Ralph Slate
Springfield Historical Commission
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:28:10 -0400
From: "Ann Chapdelaine" <designer1446 at comcast.net>
Subject: [MassHistPres] "apps"
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From: Ray Hayward
To: Ann Chapdelaine
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Chapdelaine
Off hand I can think of two people. At my day job we outsouce this work and
I work with the developer fairly frequently. He has done some iPhone apps
for the Patriots. He is pretty expensive $135 per hour.
Another gentleman I know has been studying this technology for 6 months or
so. I am not sure of his expertise level at this point, but I can reach out
to him if you'd like.
It's really one end of the spectum to the other.
Ray
Ray Hayward
617.893.1015
rayhayward at rocketmail.com
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:34:44 -0400
From: "Ann Chapdelaine" <designer1446 at comcast.net>
Subject: [MassHistPres] "apps"
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I am forwarding an email from a young man who I had the pleasure of working
with when he was a sophomore in high school to prepare some preservation
awards programs. He has some interesting and objective comments.
Ann J. Chapdelaine, Chairperson
Town of North Attleborough Historical Commission
Town Hall
43 South Washington Street
North Attleboro, MA. 02760
Office 508-699-0152
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From: Justin Kwan
To: Ann Chapdelaine
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Ann Chapdelaine
Hi Ann,
I am in China right now. I've been there for 5 weeks now. Last week and this
week are vacation, so I am in Beijing right now. I come back on Sept 12.
The Provincetown map idea looks interesting. It sounds like there are two
ways you could go - simply placing markers in a google map or create a full
iPhone application.
I'm actually very intrigued by the idea of using iPhone applications for
tourist applications. Since I live in Lowell, I have wondered if the
National Park Service has a need of similiar applications.
If the application is simply going to be markers on a map - google maps is
the easiest way to go. The user would have to open the iPhone web browser
and navigate to the map. You can also create an iPhone app that can access
the map (the user only has to download the app and doesn't have to navigate
to the map through the iPhone web browser). If the application has
supplemental content about each location - history, photos, music, video,
then an application is definitely the way to go.
As far as how successful an applications can be - I don't know the market
well enough. The questions that stand out are 1) Is it OK to support the
iPhone only. What if a person has a different kind of phone? Should
applications be created for the Android, for example? 2) Is it OK that the
user needs to download the app in order to use it? - maybe an iPhone
friendly website is better 3) Will users benefit from supplemental content
or do they really just want directions?
Is there some kind of MA database for historical sites? Eventually I could
even see some kind of iPhone app that can tap into a database of all
historical sites in MA and show information, photos, and directions about
those sites. Think about that for an exciting project....
I think it's exciting to be able to make any body of information more
accessible to people, especially something as important as historical
information. Probably much more valuable to the world than apps that pull
information on TV shows, actors and such...
I'll mention a project I've been trying to get going. I created a website
for people to be able to upload some photos of their artistic creations. The
idea is that people in the local area would be able to contribute and have
their own online community rather than DeviantArt or etsy, for example, that
host people from all around the world. The idea would be to get people to
look at local art instead of buying art at IKEA or something simliar
(although buying capabilities are a long way off).
So I launched the site (http://www.culturehive.com). I started off by
getting a few users to sign up (friends and acquaintainces), but it was
really hard to get them to upload any content. So after about a month, there
are a bunch of users, but not a lot of content. (Then I went to China). I
thought I'd be able to get some friends and acquaintances to get about 10
solid users with good content, so that I could use this to reach out to
other people through facebook and other in-person contacts I make, but that
didn't quite pan out. So now the site might need a little reinvention (more
differentiation from etsy and deviant art) and a different marketing
approach.
So the reason I brought my site up is that it is supposed to be a database
of art. It could potentially be accessed through the culturehive website or
an iPhone app. In general, the internet and iPhone apps have evolved to the
point where this question is very important: how to get people to use YOUR
database of content whether it is contributing to the database or reading
information from the database. In the case of a Provincetown iPhone app, it
is a small database of 50 locations in Provincetown. That can be scaled to a
database for all of MA (given time and resources). But the point is, in the
end, it is all an information source where people can draw information. You
want the most people drawing from that information that you can. The lesson
to be learned here is that the marketing strategy is just as important as
actually creating the content and application.
In short, creating an iPhone app on historical sites is very cool. It's even
cooler if you can get people to use your app.
Are you asking me if I want to work on an app or just for the information?
Justin
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:55:48 -0400
From: Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] "apps"
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Ann,
That's great feedback! A common search mechanism that can easily gain
access to information from different commissions...that sounds like a
potential for self guided tours with lots of great (verifable)
information.
Garrett laws
On Sunday, September 5, 2010, Ann Chapdelaine <designer1446 at comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am forwarding an email from a young man who I had
> the pleasure of working with when he was a sophomore in high school to
prepare
> some preservation awards programs.? He has
> some interesting? and objective comments.
>
>
> Ann J. Chapdelaine, Chairperson
> Town of North
> Attleborough Historical Commission
> Town Hall
> 43 South Washington
> Street
> North Attleboro, MA. 02760
> Office 508-699-0152
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Justin Kwan?<jkk817 at gmail.com>
> To: Ann Chapdelaine?<designer1446 at comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Ann Chapdelaine
>
> Hi Ann,
>
>
> I?am in China right now. I've been there for 5 weeks now. Last week
> and this week are vacation, so I am in Beijing right now. I come back on
Sept
> 12.
>
>
> The Provincetown map idea looks interesting. It sounds like there are two
> ways you could go - simply placing markers in a google map or create a
full
> iPhone application.
>
>
> I'm actually very intrigued by the idea of using iPhone applications for
> tourist applications. Since I live in Lowell, I have wondered if the
National
> Park Service has a need of similiar applications.
>
>
> If the application is simply going to be markers on a map - google maps is
> the easiest way to go. The user would have to open the iPhone web browser
and
> navigate to the map. You can also create an iPhone app that can access the
map
> (the user only has to download the app and doesn't have to navigate to the
map
> through the iPhone web browser). If the application has supplemental
content
> about each location - history, photos, music, video, then an application
is
> definitely the way to go.
>
>
> As far as how successful an applications can be - I don't know the market
> well enough. The questions that stand out are 1) Is it OK to support the
iPhone
> only. What if a person has a different kind of phone? Should applications
be
> created for the Android, for example? 2) Is it OK that the user needs to
> download the app in order to use it? - maybe an iPhone friendly website is
> better 3) Will users benefit from supplemental content or do they really
just
> want directions?
>
>
> Is there some kind of MA database for historical sites? Eventually I could
> even see some kind of iPhone app that can tap into a database of all
historical
> sites in MA and show information, photos, and directions about those
sites.
> Think about that for an exciting project....
>
>
> I think it's exciting to be able to make any body of information more
> accessible to people, especially something as important as historical
> information. Probably much more valuable to the world than apps that pull
> information on TV shows, actors and such...
>
>
> I'll mention a project I've been trying to get going. I created a website
> for people to be able to upload some photos of their artistic creations.
The
> idea is that people in the local area would be able to contribute and have
their
> own online community rather than DeviantArt or etsy, for example, that
host
> people from all around the world. The idea would be to get people to look
at
> local art instead of buying art at IKEA or something simliar (although
buying
> capabilities are a long way off).
>
>
> So I launched the site (http://www.culturehive.com). I started off
> by getting a few users to sign up (friends and acquaintainces), but it was
> really hard to get them to upload any content. So after about a month,
there are
> a bunch of users, but not a lot of content. (Then I ?went to China). I
> thought I'd be able to get some friends and acquaintances to get about 10
solid
> users with good content, so that I could use this to reach out to other
people
> through facebook and other in-person contacts I make, but that didn't
quite pan
> out. So now the site might need a little reinvention (more differentiation
from
> etsy and deviant art) and a different marketing approach.
>
>
> So the reason I brought my site up is that it is supposed to be a database
> of art. It could potentially be accessed through the culturehive website
or an
> iPhone app. In general, the internet and iPhone apps have evolved to the
point
> where this question is very important: how to get people to use YOUR
database of
> content whether it is contributing to the database or reading information
from
> the database. In the case of a Provincetown iPhone app, it is a small
database
> of 50 locations in Provincetown. That can be scaled to a database for all
of MA
> (given time and resources). But the point is, in the end, it is all an
> information source where people can draw information. You want the most
people
> drawing from that information that you can. The lesson to be learned here
is
> that the marketing strategy is just as important as actually creating the
> content and application.
>
>
> In short, creating an iPhone app on historical sites is very cool. It's
> even cooler if you can get people to use your app.
>
>
> Are you asking me if I want to work on an app or just for the
> information?
>
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Cheers,
Garrett
The Copper & Slate Company
Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
238B Calvary Street, Waltham, MA 02453
(781) 893-1916
http://picasaweb.google.com/copperandslate
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