[MassHistPres] MA Association of Historic Preservation Commissions

Tue May 17 11:09:00 EDT 2011

Sally

I don't have a good grasp of Preservation Mass history, but don't I recall that those courses began after  MHC stopped doing conferences -- which was maybe 10 years ago or a bit less. 

I seem to recall that HMI (Historic Mass. INC.), as it was under Alan Swartz back in the '80s, was very active and useful.  After he left in the early-90s, for some reason it dropped off my personal radar (and other people's I think too) until its reincarnation ca. 2000 -- if my timing is right.

When you say "this type of organization was specifically developed within the old Historic Massachusetts" are you referring back to Alan's time?

As noted below, I'm not pushing for doing something within Preservation mass specifically.  But there is something to be said for not having to re-invent the non-profit wheel if a suitable one can be found to partner with.

Dennis

On May 17, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Zimmerman Sally wrote:

> Just as a "historical" factoid, many years ago, this type of organization was specifically developed within the old Historic Massachusetts. It later morphed into the the Committee on Historic Districts and Historical Commissions within PresMass. As has been noted here earlier, the Preservation 101, etc. courses that were offered within PresMass were the work of this commitee. 
> Sally Zimmerman
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> Sally Zimmerman
> Manager of Historic Preservation Services
> Historic Homeowner Program
> 185 Lyman Street
> Waltham, MA 02452-5645
> New Phone Contact:
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> >>> Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net> 5/17/2011 10:05 AM >>>
> Chris et al
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> I have spent the last several years as part of a dedicated group that has invested thousands of hours in starting up a new non-profit organization and facing all of the issues Chris has listed below.  
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> I would strongly suggest that starting a sperate, free standing entity might be considered only after having explored the possibility of establishing something under the umbrella of an existing organization.  
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> The most obvious such organization that immediately comes to my mind would be Preservation Mass, altho there might well be others worth considering.
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> Best regards,
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> Dennis J De Witt, Vice-Chairman
> Metropolitan Waterworks Museum, Inc.
> 2450 Beacon St.
> Boston, Massachusetts 02467 
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> Overlooking the Chestnut Hill Reservoir
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> dennis.dewitt at waterworksmuseum.org
> phone 617-566-3196
> cell 617-620-9776
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> On May 17, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Chris Skelly wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I’ve appreciated seeing the responses to Brian Lever’s posting regarding the formation of statewide association of historical commissions and historic district commissions.  If there is a critical mass of people around the state interested in forming a statewide association, then I think we should all get together for a brainstorming session.  The interest on the listserve for this concept was there but so far not hugely so.  Right now, I think we need more people to express their support and energy for this idea. 
>> If we could get 20-30 people in a room (or online actually), with various backgrounds such as:
>> 1.       Experience forming a non-profit organization
>> 2.       Website Development
>> 3.       Fundraising (although I think a low budgeted organization could do a lot)
>> 4.       Grant Writing
>> 5.       Education
>> 6.       Marketing
>> 7.       Public Relations
>> 8.       Academia
>> 9.       Not sure what else but I’m sure you can think of others
>> Then, I think this could take off really fast.  I fully believe that for historic preservation to move forward some kind of association is essential.  Maybe we at least need to keep this conversation active on the listserve to draw out more people.  Chris.
>> Christopher C. Skelly
>> Director of Local Government Programs
>> Massachusetts Historical Commission
>> 220 Morrissey Boulevard, Boston, MA 02125
>> Christopher.Skelly at state.ma.us
>> http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcidx.htm
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>> From: liv1946 at gmail.com
>> To: blever3043 at aol.com
>> Sent: 5/14/2011 9:44:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
>> Subj: Re: [MassHistPres] Historical / District Commission member group
>> great idea....what can we do to help?
>> Olivia Mausel
>> for the Holyoke Historical Commission
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>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Blever3043 <blever3043 at aol.com> wrote:
>> Hi All, 
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>> I’m wondering if there is interest in forming an association of local historic preservation commissions.  Lots of other boards, committees and commissions such as conservation commissions, zoning boards of appeal, planning boards, health boards, school committees and so on have organized themselves into statewide associations.   As statewide non-profit organizations, they have a strong voice, educate their members on various topics, hold annual conferences and advocate for their cause.  This listserve is a great forum for discussion, but local commissions need a stronger collective voice.  Its been a while since the last state-wide conference and I think it would be good to have a venue that those of us in preservation can get together and learn from each other.  Even a one day conference like VAF or New England Archaeology has would be good.  With all of the Local Historical Commissions and Historic District Commissions around the state, a Massachusetts Association of Historic Preservation Commissions could help our cause and organize us.  What do you think?  Is this a good idea?  If so, what should be some next steps.
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>> Brian Lever  
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