[MassHistPres] new construction in local historic districts

Christine Beard christinebeard at verizon.net
Mon Mar 10 15:07:05 EDT 2014


Thanks to all with suggestions regarding new buildings in historic districts. Very helpful.

Chris

TREMONT PRESERVATION SERVICES
21 Market Street
Suite 250
Ipswich, MA  01938
978-356-0322 (fax/phone)

On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:37 PM, SCeccacci at aol.com wrote:

> Chris,
> In two cases in Worcester, residential buildings will have been replaced by an office building in the form of a Shingle Style house.  One, at 41 Lancaster Street, has been completed.  Another on Elm Street is under construction.  The same architects, Tuck + Tuck of Bolton, designed both.  If you look at their website, the sketch on the heading is more or less what 41 Lancaster Street looks like.  You can see on their site other buildings they have designed, almost all of this general type.
>  
> Susan McDaniel Ceccacci
> Jefferson, Massachusetts
>  
> In a message dated 3/10/2014 1:37:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, christinebeard at verizon.net writes:
> I am looking for examples of appropriate new construction within a local historic district - specifically a new office and/or commercial building in a largely residential district.  Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> Chris
> 
> TREMONT PRESERVATION SERVICES
> 21 Market Street
> Suite 250
> Ipswich, MA  01938
> 978-356-0322 (fax/phone)
> 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:49 PM, masshistpres-request at cs.umb.edu wrote:
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>>   1. churches (davidrx at aol.com)
>>   2. Re: church in a local historic district (Dennis De Witt)
>>   3. church in a local historic district (jworden at swwalaw.com)
>>   4. thank you for your responses (Olivia M)
>>   5. Soda blasting interior brick walls?
>>      (Ward Hamilton at Olde Mohawk Historic Preservation)
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>> Subject: [MassHistPres] churches
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>> Gloucester has three churches within our historic district: an Episcopal, a Congregational & a Unitarian Universalist.
>> They all are on Middle Street
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>> David H. Rhinelander
>> 16 Pine St.
>> Gloucester, MA 01930
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>> From: Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] church in a local historic district
>> To: Olivia M <liv1946 at gmail.com>
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>> Brookline?s Pill Hill LHD has a Latvian Lutheran Church (originally Swedeborgian) and a row house with a neon ?jesus Saves? cross on it that is designated as a church.
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>> When St. Aiden?s Church, which the Kennedys attended, was closed and threatened with demolition, Town Meeting directed the Preservation Commission to initiate a study report for it as a potential single property LHD, over the vociferous objections of the diocese.  Eventually the town and the diocese, both of which have strong traditions of creating affordable housing, cosponsored a friendly 40B with a very high percentage of permanently affordable housing, with the site retaining two huge copper beaches and the church, albeit as a facadectomy containing the site?s only high end units.
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>> Dennis De Witt
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>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Olivia M <liv1946 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Dear Local Historic Districts
>>> I'm looking for some numbers: do you have a church in your LHD?
>>> If so, please send your town and name of your LHD to us.
>>> We are working on a Polish Heritage Local Historic District that includes a closed Catholic Church, Mater Delorosa and can use some other LHD as examples for our City Council.
>>> Thanks for your time,
>>> Olivia Mausel, Co-Chair
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>>> Holyoke Historical Commission
>>> Fairfield Avenue Local Historic District Commission
>>> 20 Korean Veterans Plaza
>>> Holyoke City Hall Annex ~ Room 100 A
>>> Holyoke, MA. 01040 -- 
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>>> www.holyoke.org/department/historical
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>>> 413-237-1950
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>>> Vitek Kruta, Duncan Mackiewicz, *Olivia Mausel, James Sheehan, *Joseph Reynolds,  Associates: Jean Jonker, Chris Gauthier, Dan Fitzgerald
>>> Fairfield: *Matt Chenier, *Olivia Mausel, Peter Papineau, Sandra Parent, James Sutter, Beth Strycharz, Wendy Weiss        *co-chairs
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>> From: "jworden at swwalaw.com" <jworden at swwalaw.com>
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] church in a local historic district
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>> In Arlington, we have several church in historic districts:Central St. - High Rock Church (built in 1840 as 1st Universalist Church)Pleasant St. - St. John's Episcopal (1934); Boston Church of Christ (built in 1844 as First Congregational Church)Mt.Gilboa/Crescent Hill - Covenant Church (built in 1899 as Arlington Heights Baptist Church); former (1946) Arlington Heights Methodist Church, now converted to secular institutional usesJohn WordenArlington HDC
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>>> From    : Olivia M[mailto:liv1946 at gmail.com]
>> Sent    : 3/6/2014 4:25:13 PM
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>> Subject : RE: [MassHistPres] church in a local historic district
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>> Dear Local Historic DistrictsI'm looking for some numbers: do you have a church in your LHD?If so, please send your town and name of your LHD to us.We are working      on a Polish Heritage Local Historic District that includes a closed Catholic Church, Mater Delorosa and can use some other LHD as examples for our City Council.
>> Thanks for your time,Olivia Mausel, Co-Chair
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>> Holyoke Historical Commission
>> Fairfield Avenue Local Historic District Commission20 Korean Veterans PlazaHolyoke City Hall Annex ~ Room 100 AHolyoke, MA. 01040 -- 
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>> www.holyoke.org/department/historical
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>> 413-237-1950
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>> Vitek Kruta, Duncan Mackiewicz, *Olivia Mausel, James Sheehan, *Joseph Reynolds,  Associates: Jean Jonker, Chris Gauthier, Dan Fitzgerald
>> Fairfield: *Matt Chenier, *Olivia Mausel, Peter Papineau, Sandra Parent, James Sutter, Beth Strycharz, Wendy Weiss        *co-chairs
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>> From: Olivia M <liv1946 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] thank you for your responses
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>> You are the best!! It seems that there are 436 churches/chapels in LHD in
>> the state....
>> they are listed in Macris! ( thanks Gretchen and Michael S.)
>> A great help and thanks for your specific names and numbers!
>> I'll will keep you posted on our process,
>> Olivia
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>> Holyoke Historical Commission
>> Fairfield Avenue Local Historic District Commission
>> 20 Korean Veterans Plaza
>> Holyoke City Hall Annex ~ Room 100 A
>> Holyoke, MA. 01040 --
>> 
>> www.holyoke.org/department/historical
>> 
>> 413-237-1950
>> 
>> Vitek Kruta, Duncan Mackiewicz, *Olivia Mausel, James Sheehan, *Joseph
>> Reynolds,  Associates: Jean Jonker, Chris Gauthier, Dan Fitzgerald
>> *Fairfield: *Matt Chenier, *Olivia Mausel, Peter Papineau, Sandra Parent,
>> James Sutter, Beth Strycharz, Wendy Weiss        *co-chairs*
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>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 21:49:41 -0500
>> From: "Ward Hamilton at Olde Mohawk Historic Preservation"
>> <ward at wardhamilton.com>
>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Soda blasting interior brick walls?
>> To: "MHC MHC listserve" <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
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>> Interviewed a soda-blasting company owner and walked through the client's
>> house in Boston's South End today with him. He insisted that, in his
>> experience, thoroughly soda-blasting interior brick to clean and remove
>> any residual paint, plaster, or dirt might do more damage to the brick
>> than hitting it for a briefer period of time with what he described as a
>> lighter "sand-type" media (which he called "Green Lightning").
>> 
>> I gave him a couple of sample bricks with and without paint to test, but
>> it was his opinion that any media is going to eat into the brick surface
>> somewhat, and that as long as he used a lighter media (and not the heavy
>> "Black Beauty" sand used in industrial sandblasting) the brick should be
>> OK, especially as it is interior masonry not exposed to weathering and
>> moisture.
>> 
>> I have a real aversion to the idea of using sand-type blasting or
>> abrasives on bricks, so I am not sure what to make of this fellow's
>> insistence on blasting something harder than soda against the walls. Do
>> you have any thoughts on this situation? We are still trying to find
>> another vendor to bid on soda-blasting (or whatever "blasting" is
>> appropriate), to compare against New England Soda Blasting.
>> 
>> If you have any recommended soda-blasting companies that you would be
>> willing to refer to us we'd appreciate it.  Thanks in advance for your
>> advice, thoughts and input re this and/or other techniques.
>> 
>> 
>> Ward Hamilton
>> 
>> OLDE MOHAWK HISTORIC PRESERVATION INC
>> 877.622.8973 online at OldeMohawk.com
>> Slate Roofing | Masonry | Restoration
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