[MassHistPres] What is demolition?

Carol Carolmcarl at comcast.net
Sun Mar 22 23:32:34 EDT 2015


Laurie - 
Does Barnstable have a Historic District Commission (HDC) with a local Historic District, and a Historical Commission? From what I'm hearing in your email the Historical Commission is doing the duties of an HDC within it's Historic District. I don't think any of us can answer specific questions if we don't have this information. 
Thanks 
Carol M. Carlson 
Bedford HDC 

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From: "laurie young" <ovnonp at gmail.com> 
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 5:16:12 PM 
Subject: [MassHistPres] What is demolition? 

In the Town of Barnstable, any alteration to the exterior of a building that 
comes under our jurisdiction (over 75 years of age) is reviewable if the 
chair deems the change to be significant. The only aspect generally not 
reviewed is doors or windows that are replaced completely within the 
existing opening. So, any chimney demolition would come to us before a 
building permit was issued. We may or may not schedule a hearing depending 
on how significant we feel the alteration to be. We consider only exterior 
alterations. This means virtually all additions, changes to decks, porches, 
etc. stops at the Historical Commission desk first. Hope this helps. 

Laurie Young 
ovnonp at gmail.com 
617-429-1354 

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 07:49:13 -0400 
From: SCeccacci at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] What constitutes demolition? 
To: jworden at swwalaw.com, davidftemple at yahoo.com, 
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Another possibility for keeping the chimney is to provide support for the 
portion of the existing chimney that rises above the space that will be 
provided by removal of the lower portion. I have seen this done in a house 
in Worcester. 

Susan McDaniel Ceccacci 
Jefferson, MA 


In a message dated 3/19/2015 1:30:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
jworden at swwalaw.com writes: 


In Arlington ? speaking for the historic district commissions, not the 
historical commission which has jurisdiction over demolition delays ? if 
the 
chimney in question were the only one on the house, or a significant 
architectural feature, we would require the installation of a false chimney 

(presumably made of wood with brick facing) that would only exist above the 

roofline. 
John Worden 
Arlington HDC 


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[mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of David Temple 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:26 PM 
To: Mass HistPres 
Subject: [MassHistPres] What constitutes demolition? 



In Medfield we handle 5 - 10 demolition permit applications each year 
under our demolition delay bylaw, which was first enacted in 1993. Most 
cases 
involve proposed demolition of entire structures or large portions thereof, 

but some are very small, such as removing a window or clapboards when the 
owner wants to put on a small addition. 



Each time a little one comes up, we wonder, is this really demolition? and 
do we really need to hold a hearing? We don't want to abridge our right 
to review and hold hearings on applications, but where and how do you draw 
the line? 



Today, for example, a local person called. She wants to remove a chimney 
in a restored 1880 Italianate house so she can make the attic space more 
useful as a bedroom. She would fill in and shingle over the ensuing hole in 

the roof, slightly altering the external appearance of the building. (Her 
new 
heating system vents out the side of the building on the first floor.) 
Would this call for an historic demolition hearing in your city? 



I'm interested in what other commissions do, and I'll share the results 
with the group. 




In your reply, please include my original message. 

David Temple 
David F. Temple, Inc. 
300 South Street 
Medfield, MA 02052 
508-359-2915 





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