[MassHistPres] 1730 Cape threatened in Sandwich - looking for buyer

[Skelly, Christopher (SEC)]

Mike and Diane,

The current MHC workshop, Administering Demolition Delay Bylaws, has been offered around the state.  This 2 hour presentation covers all the basics of demolition delay and includes Q&A and discussion.  As with other MHC local government program workshops, they are offered in cooperation with a local or regional host.

Typical MHC local government program workshop presentations are the following:

Introduction to Historic Preservation Planning
Establishing Local Historic Districts
Administering Demolition Delay Bylaws and Ordinances
An Introduction to Architectural Preservation Districts
The Benefits of Historic Preservation
Historic Preservation:  With or Without a Local Historic District
Secretary of the Interior Standards and Local Historic District Design Guidelines
Historic Preservation Plans for Cities and Towns

Each of these workshops lasts 1 ½ to 2 hours. I would be happy to participate in a day long forum on demolition delay that covers more in-depth topics and discussion than an MHC workshop.  Chris.

Christopher C. Skelly
Director of Local Government Programs
Massachusetts Historical Commission
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From: MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Roughan, Michael
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 5:09 PM
To: Diane Gilbert; Dennis De Witt
Cc: MHC list
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] 1730 Cape threatened in Sandwich - looking for buyer

Diane,

Great suggestion, count me in. Perhaps Chris Skelly can role this into one of his seminars on Preservation?

….Mike

Michael Roughan, AIA, EDAC, LEED AP, ACHA

D +1.617.357.7725 M +1.617.784.6463

From: Diane Gilbert [mailto:d.m.gilbert at comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:39 AM
To: Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net>
Cc: Roughan, Michael <Michael.Roughan at hdrinc.com>; MHC list <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] 1730 Cape threatened in Sandwich - looking for buyer

Greetings All,

As preservation-minded folks weigh in on the latest threatened [Cape in Sandwich] historic building, this presents an opportunity to gather ourselves for a day somewhere to discuss these horror stories but more importantly to compare notes and discuss ways we’ve each explored to battle against demolition of these significant houses. Demo delay is just one of our tools.  Some communities don’t have it, others want to improve it, and learn about other means to save and protect as the clock runs out.

Many of us regret that we didn’t do more.  What does that look like.  We can learn from each other with guidance from MHC, Preservation Massachusetts, Historic New England, etc.

Sarah Korjeff of the Cape Cod Commission and others who’ve weighed in might wish to explore the nuts and bolts and action plans that others have pursued to avoid the wrecking ball. Aside from Realtors, most engaged in this forum know that any house can be saved and preserved. It’s also a matter of not giving in or giving up so readily.

I suggest a case study approach, panel discussions––session outline models that work.  I am happy and willing to help.

Diane Gilbert


On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net<mailto:djd184 at verizon.net>> wrote:


Here is another unhappy example — and an object lesson.  In the early days of our demo delay, we collectively ignored a scruffy mansard, surrounding by automotive-body shop parking, while a largish condo building was going through Planning Board design review.  When the developer finally applied for a demo permit, we decided to just see what was inside — not expecting much.  Immediately we saw cased corner posts and knew we had dropped the ball.  As designed, the fully permitted condo project needed the parking spaces where the house stood and the Planning Board chair had a gut hostility to Preservation.  So we lost an 18th C. framed house with nogging that had been hiding in plain sight.

Dennis De Witt
Brookline.

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On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Roughan, Michael <Michael.Roughan at hdrinc.com<mailto:Michael.Roughan at hdrinc.com>> wrote:

Amanda,

Hopkinton had the same opinion of the 18th century “Toll House” that was demolished after a demo delay. The house appeared to have lost most of its character.
However, as it was being demolished it exposed its bones of fine pegged mortise and tenon timber framing To this day, my biggest regret as Chairman of the HHC is that I did not do more to protect a historically significant structure. Don’t make the same mistake in Sandwich.

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….Mike

Michael Roughan, AIA, EDAC, LEED AP, ACHA
Chairman - Hopkinton Historical Commission

Town of Hopkinton
18 Main Street
Hopkinton, MA 01748

D 617.357.7725 M 617.784.6463


From: MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Amanda Haines
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:42 AM
To: Sarah Korjeff <skorjeff at capecodcommission.org<mailto:skorjeff at capecodcommission.org>>; Diane Gilbert <d.m.gilbert at comcast.net<mailto:d.m.gilbert at comcast.net>>
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Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] 1730 Cape threatened in Sandwich - looking for buyer

Hi all.  At least two of us on the Sandwich Historic Commission have toured this house (both of us are realtors), and I believe that the real estate agent also invited the Historic District Committee to take a look. Although I certainly defer to Sarah, the house is in terrible condition and thoroughly muddled on the inside.  Although we always hate to say "no" to saving any historic home, the interior appears to have been stripped of most, if not all, period details with the exception of some flooring and doors.  It is now at a point where it is prohibitively expensive to restore and again, I struggled to find much that could be saved even if a buyer had the very deep pockets that would be required. Sorry to be the bearer of such sad news.
Amanda Haines
Sandwich Historic Commission
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From: MassHistPres <masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu<mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu>> on behalf of Diane Gilbert <d.m.gilbert at comcast.net<mailto:d.m.gilbert at comcast.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:46:04 AM
To: Sarah Korjeff
Cc: MHC list
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] 1730 Cape threatened in Sandwich - looking for buyer

Hi Sarah,

WOW!  I would love to see this house. Any chance that we preservation-minded fanatics can tour this house?  I’m wondering how close it resembles our 1762 Akin House in Dartmouth.  It’s earlier but time and renovations on these early houses don’t stand still, frozen in time.

Diane
President, Dartmouth Heritage Preservation Trust, Inc.
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On Jan 22, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Sarah Korjeff <skorjeff at capecodcommission.org<mailto:skorjeff at capecodcommission.org>> wrote:

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Threatened circa 1730 full Cape in the town of Sandwich --
This property is located at 25 Water Street within the Sandwich Old Kings Highway Historic District and a National Register Historic District, but it is threatened after being for sale for years without a buyer.  The house retains most of its original interior woodwork and detailing, though some is buried underneath 20th century renovations.  If you know anyone interested in restoring one of our few remaining 18th century Capes in a great location on a large lot with plenty of room for new additions or outbuildings, please contact real estate agent Greg Donahue, 508-942-6416 or Historic District Committee Chair Bill Collins at brisa at dslextreme.com<mailto:brisa at dslextreme.com>.

Sarah

Sarah Korjeff
Historic Preservation Specialist/Planner
Cape Cod Commission
3225 Main Street/P.O. Box 226
Barnstable, MA  02630
508-362-3828 (front desk)
508-744-1215 (direct)
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