[MassHistPres] MassHistPres Digest, Vol 87, Issue 35

aubrey theall aubreytheall at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 19 09:26:33 EDT 2025


Regarding the question about a local Historic Commission being able to over-rule a town bylaw I personally do not believe that would be the case but this is a question for your town’s legal counsel.

Aubrey Theall
Chair, Groton Historic Commission 

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>   1. Re: Historic Outbuildings Survey and Documentation (PJS)
>   2. Authority of Historic District Commissions vs Town    By-laws
>      (Nancy Robbins)
>   3. Re: Historic Outbuildings Survey and Documentation
>      (Steinitz, Michael @ SEC)
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> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 23:11:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: PJS <pj.sage at ymail.com>
> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu, Sarah LaValley
>    <slavalley at northamptonma.gov>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Historic Outbuildings Survey and
>    Documentation
> Message-ID: <1326144703.5699686.1742339463828 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> Hi Sarah,
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> The Town of Rockingham, Vermont, has a Vermont Historic Sites & Structures Survey for outbuildings. The file is too big to email, so I will share it with you using OneDrive.
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> Regards,
> Paula Sagerman
> Historic Preservation Consultant
> Brattleboro, Vermont
>     On Tuesday, March 18, 2025 at 05:19:21 PM EDT, Sarah LaValley via MassHistPres <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu> wrote:  
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> Is anyone aware of examples of targeted studies of historic secondary structures (carriage houses, barns, garages, etc)I'm espeially interested in projects where the scope was focused on most critical or otherwise limited (perhaps by year built, use, etc.)  since funding is not available to complete this in the entire community
> I'm working on an RFP and would love to see any examples you may be aware of.
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> Thanks very much-
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> Sarah I. LaValley, AICP
> Assistant Director
> Northampton Office of Planning and Sustainability
> City Hall, 210 Main Street, 2nd Floor
> Northampton MA, 01060www.northamptonma.gov/plan 413-587-1263
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> From: Nancy Robbins <nancyrobbins2 at yahoo.com>
> To: "MassHistPres at cs.umb.edu" <MassHistPres at cs.umb.edu>
> Subject: [MassHistPres] Authority of Historic District Commissions vs
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> Since the HDC is an appointed Commission and used the guideline that are provided by the State Powers that Be, would it be safe to say that the Commission's ruling, as dictated by the guidelines,  would overrule town by-laws that exist for that area?
> Thank you,
> Nancy FedericiNorton Historic District Commission, Co-chair
> Nancy Robbins Federici 42 Mansfield Avenue Norton, MA  02766(c) 508-958-5165nancyrobbins2 at yahoo.com
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> From: "Steinitz, Michael @ SEC" <Michael.Steinitz at sec.state.ma.us>
> To: Dennis De Witt <dennis.j.dewitt at gmail.com>,
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> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Historic Outbuildings Survey and
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> Copies  of Carriage House to Auto House: A Guide to Brookline's Transportation Buildings to 1940 may still be available from the Brookline Department of Planning & Community Development.
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> Michael
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> Michael Steinitz
> Deputy State Historic Preservation Officer
> Director, Preservation Planning Division
> Massachusetts Historical Commission
> 220 Morrissey Blvd
> Boston MA 02125
> 617-727-8470
> 617-727-5128 (fax)
> michael.steinitz at sec.state.ma.us<mailto:michael.steinitz at sec.state.ma.us>
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> From: MassHistPres <masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu> on behalf of Dennis De Witt via MassHistPres <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 5:34 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] Historic Outbuildings Survey and Documentation
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> This is perhaps not the format you are thinking of, but it is a well done study intended to raise community awareness:
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> Carriage House to Auto House: a Guide to Brookline's Transportation Buildings to 1940 (Roger Reed and Greer Hardwicke, 2002)
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> I could find only one copy listed on line at $75 and this poor cover pic.
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> [carrriage house to auto house_.jpg]
> Dennis De Witt
> Brookline
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> On Mar 18, 2025, at 4:48 PM, Sarah LaValley via MassHistPres <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone aware of examples of targeted studies of historic secondary structures (carriage houses, barns, garages, etc)
> I'm espeially interested in projects where the scope was focused on most critical or otherwise limited (perhaps by year built, use, etc.)  since funding is not available to complete this in the entire community
> I'm working on an RFP and would love to see any examples you may be aware of.
> 
> Thanks very much-
> 
> Sarah I. LaValley, AICP
> Assistant Director
> Northampton Office of Planning and Sustainability
> City Hall, 210 Main Street, 2nd Floor
> Northampton MA, 01060
> www.northamptonma.gov/plan<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.northamptonma.gov/plan__;!!O9h35Ks8fCsF!Ge63CnsxMOCPvo3qA0FA29P_q0B7jtmTL_3NiFaLKSy_xGplIE6iGVjSrIKR0YgTtx201szDM4y7yDN7bl2iYH6nNyFtk38g_TxiKQ$>
> 413-587-1263
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> [http://www.northamptonma.gov/ImageRepository/Document?documentID=2621]
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