[MassHistPres] MassHistPres Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18

Mon Feb 26 11:48:30 EST 2007

Suggest you contact Cabot Corp. Newburyport for factual info on paint versus stain. 

Dave Mountain <d-mountain at comcast.net> wrote:   It is my understanding that paint and stain are essentially the same product
but with differing amounts of pigment. Paint, with the higher concentration
of pigment, should last longer but if the wood isn't prepared properly or if
too many layers build up, it could be more likely to peel.

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1. Re: paint removal & staining (Sue Dowd)

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My experience with stain has been that it really does last longer, and for
the most part does not peel. When I lived in a row-house in charlestown,
ours was the only one on the wind-tunnel block with stain -- everyone else
had peeling paint they had to deal with every couple of years. I lived there
nine years and we never had to do a thing, except paint the trim.

You can get stain in any color. From what I understand, the darker the stain
you use, the more chance there is of peeling. My only hesitancy with stain
is if you plan to use white. White stain has the appearance of white-wash,
or almost looks like a primer - it is just not as crisp and finished looking
as white paint. 

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Sue Dowd

W A X B E A N P R O D U C T I O N S
978 - 388 - 7714
sdowd at waxbeanproductions.com

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> From: Dennis De Witt 
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:45:56 -0500
> To: MHC listserve 
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] paint removal & staining
> 
> I will second that. It seems like almost every time you read about
> an historic building burning someone was using a torch for paint
> removal or soldering. There were two cases in Chicago in the last
> few months -- one a Sullivan building. We once watched the medieval
> trusswork supporting the lead roof burn off of the cathedral in
> Mechlen Belgium -- someone had been repairing the lead roof.
> Fortunately the stone vaults held and kept the burning timbers from
> falling into the nave.
> 
> Dennis De Witt
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2007, at 12:47 PM, 
> wrote:
> 
>> I can't comment on shaving vs. sanding, but urge very strongly that
>> you don't use heat guns to remove the accumlated paint. That was
>> done in 1975 on our Unitarian Meeting House (1856) and it caught
>> fire & burned down.
>> 
>> As far as staining is concerned, my son has a 19th c. barn which he
>> stains; he says it has to be re-done every few years as the stain
>> just fades away - but it's easier to do than paint. Of course, the
>> paints available nowadays do not last as well as the old lead
>> paints did.
>> 
>> J. Worden
>> Arlington HDC
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>> 1. Question on painting vs staining, and shaving vs scraping
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>> Subject: [MassHistPres] Question on painting vs staining, and shaving
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>> As a member of a congregation as well as a co-chair of our towns
>> HC, I have a question for which I do not have an answer.
>> 
>> The church building (National Register, circa 1789) is in desperate
>> need of a painting. We've gotten a quote for paint shaving -
>> mechanical removal of the lead paint, down to the bare wood. Since
>> the building has many layers of paint on it, which have peeled,
>> cracked, etc. it seems this would be a good thing to do - and in
>> addition, would remove all the lead.
>> 
>> A question was raised on putting stain rather than paint on the
>> surface, as stain supposedly will last longer, have no need to be
>> scraped, etc.
>> 
>> So two questions - anyone with experience (good or bad) with
>> shaving vs traditional scraping and washing as surface prep; and
>> the potential advantages of stain vs paint.
>> 
>> Dan Bibel
>> Medfield HC
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