[MassHistPres] MassHistPres Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18
Boston Affiliates
BostonAffiliates at verizon.net
Mon Feb 26 14:04:21 EST 2007
I've been wondering since this dialogue began - have we considered whether
stain is appropriate for a 1789 church?
Pauline Chase-Harrell, President
Boston Affiliates, Inc.
156 Milk Street
Boston, MA 02109
617-451-9450
At 03:06 PM 2/25/07, Dave Mountain wrote:
>It is my understanding that paint and stain are essentially the same product
>but with differing amounts of pigment. Paint, with the higher concentration
>of pigment, should last longer but if the wood isn't prepared properly or if
>too many layers build up, it could be more likely to peel.
>
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> 1. Re: paint removal & staining (Sue Dowd)
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>From: Sue Dowd <sdowd at waxbeanproductions.com>
>Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] paint removal & staining
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>My experience with stain has been that it really does last longer, and for
>the most part does not peel. When I lived in a row-house in charlestown,
>ours was the only one on the wind-tunnel block with stain -- everyone else
>had peeling paint they had to deal with every couple of years. I lived there
>nine years and we never had to do a thing, except paint the trim.
>
>You can get stain in any color. From what I understand, the darker the stain
>you use, the more chance there is of peeling. My only hesitancy with stain
>is if you plan to use white. White stain has the appearance of white-wash,
>or almost looks like a primer - it is just not as crisp and finished looking
>as white paint.
>
>. . . . . . . . . . .
>
>Sue Dowd
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> > From: Dennis De Witt <djdewitt at rcn.com>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:45:56 -0500
> > To: MHC listserve <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] paint removal & staining
> >
> > I will second that. It seems like almost every time you read about
> > an historic building burning someone was using a torch for paint
> > removal or soldering. There were two cases in Chicago in the last
> > few months -- one a Sullivan building. We once watched the medieval
> > trusswork supporting the lead roof burn off of the cathedral in
> > Mechlen Belgium -- someone had been repairing the lead roof.
> > Fortunately the stone vaults held and kept the burning timbers from
> > falling into the nave.
> >
> > Dennis De Witt
> >
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2007, at 12:47 PM, <jworden at swwalaw.com>
> > <jworden at swwalaw.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I can't comment on shaving vs. sanding, but urge very strongly that
> >> you don't use heat guns to remove the accumlated paint. That was
> >> done in 1975 on our Unitarian Meeting House (1856) and it caught
> >> fire & burned down.
> >>
> >> As far as staining is concerned, my son has a 19th c. barn which he
> >> stains; he says it has to be re-done every few years as the stain
> >> just fades away - but it's easier to do than paint. Of course, the
> >> paints available nowadays do not last as well as the old lead
> >> paints did.
> >>
> >> J. Worden
> >> Arlington HDC
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> >> 1. Question on painting vs staining, and shaving vs scraping
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> >> Subject: [MassHistPres] Question on painting vs staining, and shaving
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> >> As a member of a congregation as well as a co-chair of our towns
> >> HC, I have a question for which I do not have an answer.
> >>
> >> The church building (National Register, circa 1789) is in desperate
> >> need of a painting. We've gotten a quote for paint shaving -
> >> mechanical removal of the lead paint, down to the bare wood. Since
> >> the building has many layers of paint on it, which have peeled,
> >> cracked, etc. it seems this would be a good thing to do - and in
> >> addition, would remove all the lead.
> >>
> >> A question was raised on putting stain rather than paint on the
> >> surface, as stain supposedly will last longer, have no need to be
> >> scraped, etc.
> >>
> >> So two questions - anyone with experience (good or bad) with
> >> shaving vs traditional scraping and washing as surface prep; and
> >> the potential advantages of stain vs paint.
> >>
> >> Dan Bibel
> >> Medfield HC
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