[MassHistPres] a hex on plastic gutters

[Dennis De Witt]

Not sure I can buy the idea of
"faithfully cleaned and oiled at least twice a year and then replaced  
every 20 to 30 years"
The wood gutters on my house are 120 years old.

Dennis De Witt
Brookline


On Aug 15, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Sam Bird wrote:

> While I agree that PVC (Azek et al) is an environmental disaster,
> let's stop to think about LCC (lead coated copper). Eaves and gutter
> bottoms are subject to great wear and erosion over time - where is
> all that water and lead going? I believe the manufacture of LCC is
> now all offshore as domestic companies can't do it and comply with
> environmental regs - that has to tell us something about LCC.
>
> Also, sealing one side of a piece of wood and not the other (in this
> case the inside of the gutter) is not a great idea in terms of
> preserving the wood long term. This leads to differential drying and
> premature checking and failure.
>
> This is a situation where there may not be an ideally historically
> correct and green solution except for the way it has been done for
> ages - ie. a wood gutter, well pitched, faithfully cleaned and oiled
> at least twice a year and then replaced every 20 to 30 years. If the
> push is to create "green jobs" perhaps the job of maintenance of the
> green replacements for "maintenance free" materials is one place to
> start.
>
> Sam Bird AIA, LEED AP
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Deane Rykerson wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2008, at 11:45 AM, James Hadley wrote:
>>
>>> There is a wood replica gutter available from Azek. It may be one
>>> of the
>>> better uses for Azek.
>>> Jim Hadley, Orleans Historical Commission
>>
>>
>> please, please, please don't use plastic (except maybe mixed with
>> wood for decking).  What an environmental disaster in manufacture.
>>
>> We are using doug fir gutters at Hancock-Clarke in Lexington.  One
>> section was bought at the lumber yard 30 feet long.  Here is a
>> detail to line the wood gutter with copper (in this case lead-
>> coated), adapted from Arron Sturgis and Rex Passion.
>>
>>
>> Deane Rykerson AIA
>> Rykerson Architecture
>> 1 Salt Marsh Lane
>> Kittery Point ME 03905
>> 207-439-8755
>> <Picture 7.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> and the real thing.
>>
>>
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