[MassHistPres] windows

[Garrett Laws]

Jade,

J P Moriarty in Somerville is one who I've seen making a window hinted at in
your last paragraph, chains not ropes though.

Cheers,
Garrett

The Copper & Slate Company
Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
238B Calvary Street, Waltham, MA 02453
(781) 893-1916

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, jade <jade at crocker.com> wrote:

>  when i work as a subcontractor for a general contractor and/or an
> architect, we are typically required to warranty our work against defects of
> product and/or installation under normal use...often i ask for a definition
> of 'defect' and 'normal use' as interpreted by the gc/architect...
>
> as far as replacement windows are concerned, vinyl windows will begin to
> fail within 5 years, same with a low end wood or clad window...most
> manufacturers produce 2 or 3 levels of 'quality' in their window line...the
> cheapest will begin to fail in about 5 years; the mid-range between 5-15
> years; the high end between 10-20 years...by failure, i mean tiltpack
> springs boinging across the room shattering your favorite knick-knack in one
> fell swoop; the insulated glass becoming foggy (beneficial for those with
> unpleasant neighbors); exterior wood components becoming punky; finger
> jointed wood delaminating; vinyl becoming spotted and gray and impossible to
> clean; those little string balance systems snapping in a location where they
> can not be retrieved; '30 year paint' beginning to peel in the first
> decade.........and so on.....
>
> now, if you have your local sash maker mill new sash and/or frame which are
> made of spanish cedar, mahogany, old growth pine, etc, and mortise and tenon
> joinery with a rope and pully balance system you can expect 100 years or
> more of service if you incorporate a simple maintenance schedule...
>
> ...jade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Marc Cleary <marc at clearywindowrestoration.com>
> *To:* 'Marcia Starkey' <mdstarkey at crocker.com> ; 'Dennis De Witt'<djd184 at verizon.net>;
> 'MassHistPres' <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] windows
>
>  Correct, anything you do get from them would need to be painted and
> installed (if wood on either side)
>
> I know it is hard to find someone to do a job like this.
>
>
>
> Marc Cleary
>
> *Cleary and Son, Inc.***
>
> Office 781-893-0723
>
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>
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>
> *From:* masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu [mailto:
> masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Starkey
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:23 AM
> *To:* Dennis De Witt; MassHistPres
> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] windows
>
>
>
> Re" window sash or sash/frames: Is it always true that installation is not
> warranteed?
>
>
>
> Marcia Starkey, Greenfield HC
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Dennis De Witt <djd184 at verizon.net>
>
> *To:* MassHistPres <masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:35 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] windows
>
>
>
> Replacement typically means the cost of a new sash.  You can bet that the
> manufacturer will charge you more for the replacement sash than the original
> cost for that sash as part of a new window because you've go nowhere else to
> go.
>
>
>
> Failures can start at 15 years and few warrantees are more than 20 years
> and are limited in various ways -- like roof and tire warrantees.  In my
> experience 10 year warranteed water heaters fail like clockwork after about
> 7 years.  My plumber confirms that.  The replacement one is never
> warrenteed.
>
>
>
> 90% of the installed organically sealed IG is less than 25 years old.  For
> budgetary purposes, I'd assume a 30 year life for good units, 15 years for
> cheap ones.
>
>
>
> Shockingly here is something picked up at random from a local maker of
> replacement IG units in Maine.
>
>
>
> "*Typical life expectancy for an insulated unit is between five and ten
> year depending greatly on the window design."*
>
>
>
> Even I don't find that reasonable but that may be all you can expect with
> the unit not being factory installed in the sash.
>
>
>
> Dennis De Witt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Suzanne W Pelton wrote:
>
>
>
>  Can someone supply information on the life expectancy of  replacement
> windows? Or the repair costs when the insulation seal between the two panes
> of glass ruptures?
>
> Suzanne Pelton
>
> Lenox Historical Commission
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Marcia Starkey wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hello,
>
>
>
> A breakthru seems possible with the current cover story on "Fine
> Homebuilding" saying that repair is more advantageous than replacement.
>
>
>
> Marcia Starkey, Greenfield HC
>
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