[MassHistPres] MA Register but not MACRIS?

[Harry LaCortiglia]

Hi Ellen,

After some telephonic hand holding by Chris Skelly from MHC, I was able 
to locate the info that I was looking for.

With his help, I found out that the asset I was looking for was listed 
on the MACRIS. Once found, I subsequently noted the "Designation" field 
of the asset's data file and discovered that the asset was not, in fact, 
on the State Register.

Navigating and mining databases is not something that I commonly do on a 
day to day basis.
I suspect that my inability to effectively use MACRIS and find the data 
on my own, has more to do with my lack of familiarity with databases in 
general, than any deficiency inherent inthe MACRIS system.

Fortunately the folks at MHC, once asked, were very helpfuland responsive.

Again, my thanks to everyone who took the time to reply to my posting 
(through the listserve _and_ privately).

Best,
H. LaCortiglia
Georgetown Planning Board / CPC






On 11/14/2012 10:52 AM, Ellen St.Sure wrote:
> MUCH MUCH too complicated.  A jungle, in fact, for those attempting to 
> update local materials. Or, equally, for those attempting to locate 
> research materials on old assets.
> Ellen St. Sure
> Brewster Historical Commission, chair
> Archivist, Town of Brewster
>
> On Nov 12, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Steinitz, Michael (SEC) wrote:
>
>> This question is discussed on the MACRIS database disclaimer page at 
>> http://mhc-macris.net/macrisdisclaimer.htm MACRIS is _not_ definitive 
>> on this question.
>>
>> Among the reasons a property in the State Register of Historic Places 
>> or in the Inventory of Historic and Archaeological Assets of the 
>> Commonwealth may not “show up” in the MACRIS database:
>>
>> 1)Recent listing not yet entered into MACRIS database.
>>
>> 2)Property is located within State Register historic district or area 
>> for which individual property addresses are not on record.  This is 
>> true for many (often large) early National Register of Historic 
>> Places districts for which data sheets listing all properties were 
>> not required.
>>
>> 3)Property is located with an Inventory Area – individual property 
>> addresses in Areas are often not on record.
>>
>> 4)Address (street name and/or street number) has changed since 
>> information was filed with MHC.  (Very common – though MHC actively 
>> updates this information)
>>
>> 5)Property has multiple addresses – corner property with two street 
>> frontages, city block property with four street frontages, street 
>> address and assessor’s address differ, etc.
>>
>> 6)Archaeological resource – online MACRIS does not include 
>> information on archaeological resources.  Any listings of State 
>> Register archaeological resources do not include location information.
>>
>> If there is some doubt check with MHC.  Keep in mind the differences 
>> between the State Register of Historic Places (properties and sites 
>> with specified legal national, state or local historic designations), 
>> the Inventory of Historic and Archaeological Assets of the 
>> Commonwealth (properties and sites for which inventory information is 
>> on file with MHC), and MACRIS (the Massachusetts Cultural Resources 
>> Information System – MHC’s database tool).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael Steinitz
>>
>> DeputyStateHistoric Preservation Officer
>>
>> Director, Preservation Planning Division
>>
>> MassachusettsHistorical Commission
>>
>> 220 Morrissey Boulevard
>>
>> Boston, Massachusetts 02125
>>
>> 617-727-8470
>>
>> 617-727-5128 (fax)
>>
>> michael.steinitz at state.ma.us <mailto:michael.steinitz at state.ma.us>
>>
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>> *From:*masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu 
>> <mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu> 
>> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] *On Behalf Of *Harry LaCortiglia
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2012 2:57 PM
>> *To:* MHCListserve (E-mail)
>> *Subject:* [MassHistPres] MA Register but not MACRIS?
>>
>> I have what will probably be a silly question to the more 
>> Historically indoctrinated of this listserve...
>>
>> Is it possible for an asset to be on the MA Historical Register but 
>> _not _show up on the MACRIS database?
>>
>> Very curious to know...
>>
>> (And very grateful for any help you could give...)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> H. LaCortiglia,
>> Chairman, Georgetown CPC
>>
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