[MassHistPres] what's in a name?

Dennis De Witt djd184 at verizon.net
Wed Feb 19 10:13:24 EST 2014


Jill

You raise valid points but I think lots of Historical Societies may be like Brookline's.  It has an small historic house museum and an historic one room school -- both town owned -- and it does a good job with periodic programs and its web site -- but it has no proper archive — much less any other museum space.  And it is not empowered to speak for the town.  

Dennis

 
On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jill Fisher <jillfisher47 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dennis, I appreciate your comments on the various & overlapping roles.  I would only add that many if not most towns &/or counties have Historical Societies whose role it is to document the historical ephemera such as newspapers, letters, clothing, etc.  Where this is the case, I'm not sure that adding an Architectural Preservation Commission along side a Historical [Preservation] Commission would be necessary.  Perhaps it would set up competition for qualified volunteers & possibly create turf battles.
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> Just a thought.
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> Jill Fisher, AICP
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> From: djd184 at verizon.net
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:50:49 -0500
> To: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] what's in a name?
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> Marcia
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> Let me share a thought re the term "Historic Preservation Commission"
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> As you know, Historic Commissions and Historic District Commissions are established under different MGL chapters.  40c allows an LHD commission to merge with and subsume the role of the Historical Commission.
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> When Brookline became a CLG in the '80s it merged its commissions, in part because we were under the impression we had to do so to become a CLG.  That is now not the case, if it ever was.   We also adopted the name Preservation Commission — in part because we were sick of hearing "Hysterical Commission" yuk yuk!
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> The effect has been that Brookline has a commission that is fairly good at LHDs, Demo Delays, etc.  Indeed it risks being swamped by its own success.
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> The downside is that the role of the traditional historical commission has largely been lost — and has been difficult to argue for at budget time.
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> Altho archival materials and memories need to be "preserved," perhaps the term preservation in the commission's name implicitly suggests in our culture that the focus is mostly on buildings and less on their cultural, artifactual, and historical context than once would have been the case.
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> Altho the Preservation Commission's hard working staff could justifiably shoot me for suggesting this, arguably Brookline would be better served by having both an Architectural Preservation Commission and an Historical Commission.
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> Dennis De Witt
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> On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Marcia Starkey <mdstarkey at crocker.com> wrote:
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> The Fall 1992 “Preservation Advocate” from MHC included a message from the Chairman which said : Massachusetts is unique in that it provides for a municipal body – local historical commissions– to carry out preservation planning at the local level.”   Two thoughts: is Massachusetts still unique as bodies authorized by state law? and is the title “historical commission” (rather than “historic preservation commission” ) still preferable?  
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> Marcia Starkey
> Greenfield Historical Commission         
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