[MassHistPres] Demo Delay Property Transfers
Mark and Amy Friend
marknamy at verizon.net
Tue Dec 13 16:34:59 EST 2016
We are still working on our Demo Delay Bylaw draft here in West Newbury
but we are also concerned about this issue and have added a provision to
our draft that states that the delay period is non transferable with a
change in ownership.
Amy Friend
West Newbury Historical Commission
On 12/13/2016 11:31 AM, Mark Barry wrote:
> Marilyn, Sarah, Katy, and others:
> This is a timely thread for the Duxbury Historical Commission. The
> revised Historic Preservation bylaw that we are planning to present at
> annual Town Meeting includes a provision that would make a demolition
> certification non-transferrable to a new owner. Our logic is that we
> want another bite at the apple in the form of a chance to talk with
> the new owner about preservation as an alternative to demolition when
> a property that has an outstanding demolition certification is sold.
> In preparation for discussions about the revised bylaw, the Commission
> has been asked to research what other towns and cities are doing
> regarding transferability.
> Property owners would become aware of this provision by reading the
> bylaw, through the Commission’s written instructions for filling out
> the application for demolition certification or by hearing about it at
> “the window” at the Inspectional Services department at Town Hall. We
> presume our local weekly newspaper will make note of this provision in
> its coverage of the new bylaw too.
> Do we know of other towns where demolition permits (or the permission
> to demolish an historic structure) expires or does not transfer when a
> property is sold?
> Thank you,
> Mark Barry
> Member of the Duxbury Historical Commission
> Mobile: 832-331-4764
> Office: 508-591-5400
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> 1. demo delay property transfers (Katy Hax Holmes)
> 2. Re: Demo delay property transfers (Sarah White)
> 3. Historic Structures Report pricing (Tucker, Jonathan)
> Hello Marilyn,
> The City of Newton recently changed its ordinance to make the
> ownership of historic properties non-transferrable during demo delay
> periods. The demo delay no longer transfers by address, and
> purchase-and-sale documents are no longer sufficient proof of
> ownership. Having just passed this change in the spring, we are aware
> of the ‘opportunity’ allowed in the building code to transfer
> ownership of demolition permits once the demo delay expires.
> Nevertheless, Newton’s primary objective was to strengthen the intent
> of the demolition delay by ensuring that property owners used the
> delay period to find alternatives to demolition. Again, still early
> yet, but the changes have reduced the number of historic properties on
> our historical commission’s agenda for which demolition was never
> intended (e.g. a marketing tool to ‘start the clock’), and the
> Commission has more time to pursue protection measures for threatened
> historically significant structures.
> Katy Hax Holmes
> City of Newton
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> Marilyn -
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> In Somerville, it carries with the property, not the owner. (Same
> thing in Newburyport where I live).
>
> Best,
> Sarah
>
> Sarah White
> Planner / Preservation Planner
> Mayor's Office of Strategic Planning & Community Development
> City of Somerville / Somerville City Hall
> 93 Highland Avenue
> Somerville, MA 02143
> 617.625.6600 x2534
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> <masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu> on behalf of Burks, Sarah
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:55 PM
> *To:* M Fenollosa; masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] Demo delay property transfers
> Hi Marilyn,
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> The CHC decisions do carry with the property. But because the finding
> regarding preferably preserved status is made in the context of a
> proposed replacement proposal, the applicant has to have a replacement
> proposal to show us in order to apply. A prospective buyer can get
> the existing owner to apply on his behalf, but we would still need to
> see the replacement design. If a new owner has a new replacement
> design proposal, we would require a new application.
>
> Sarah
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> [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of M Fenollosa
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:33 AM
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> Subject: [MassHistPres] Demo delay property transfers
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> Hi everybody -
>
> For those communities with demo delay, do you allow "transfers" of the
> demo delay periodto a subsequent owner who purchases the property
> while the delay is running? or do you require the new owner to
> reapply, thus restarting the delay period if the HC votes again to
> impose it? And if so, how do you ensure that everyone knows this -
> through your DD bylaw?
> written policy? Apparently it's not required one way or the other by
> any state law or regulation (e.g. the Building Code). This issue is
> prompted by owners who plan to sell their property within a year, and
> want to market the property as a teardown because the DD period will
> have almost expired at the sale date.
>
> Many thanks for your insights!
>
> Marilyn Fenollosa
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> Lexington Historical Commission
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> Has anyone recently contracted with a historic preservation specialist
> for a Historic Structures Report for a medium-large library or similar
> public building?
>
> If so, how much did it cost?
>
> Thanks,
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> Jonathan Tucker
> Senior Planner
> Amherst Planning Department
> 4 Boltwood Avenue, Town Hall
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