[MassHistPres] replacement windows

[Stacia Caplanson]

Hi Garrett,

I work for the statewide historic preservation nonprofit organization.
While our home office is in Plymouth,  we are a nonprofit and not
affiliated with the Plymouth HDC. You would need to contact them directly
to find out more about their experience.

 All my best,
Stacia

Stacia Caplanson

Preservation Circuit Rider for Central and Western MA

Preservation Massachusetts

617-999-3256

scaplanson at preservationmass.org

The Landmark Building

34 Main Street Extension, Suite 401

Plymouth, MA 02360




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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Stacia,
>
> I see that your address is in Plymouth. Can you comment on how things are
> going in Plymouth as they say they have a list of appropriate
> windows/manufacturers?
>
> Garrett
> Copper & Slate
> (781) 893-1916
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, Stacia Caplanson <
> scaplanson at preservationmass.org> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to jump into the conversation and share with you three resource
>> documents that you might find helpful.
>>
>>
>> The first is a bibliography of links to articles which make the case for
>> repair rather than replacement of historic windows, address the
>> philosophical, ecological, environmental, reasons as well as present data
>> on energy efficiency. The second is a list of window repair shops in New
>> England. The third is a list compiled by Jade Mortimer, of products she
>> uses in her window repair work.   Here is a link to all of the PDF
>> documents, which can be downloaded and printed:
>>
>> https://www.preservationmass.org/windows
>>
>>
>>
>> It is my belief that the more information we have to share with owners of
>> historic buildings, private individuals and municipalities, the better we
>> are equipped to counter the arguments presented by the vinyl replacement
>> window industry.
>>
>>
>> All my best,
>> Stacia
>>
>> Stacia Caplanson
>>
>> Preservation Circuit Rider for Central and Western MA
>>
>> Preservation Massachusetts
>>
>> 617-999-3256
>>
>> scaplanson at preservationmass.org
>>
>> The Landmark Building
>>
>> 34 Main Street Extension, Suite 401
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Plymouth, MA 02360
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Office:
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> 617-723-3383 <(617)%20723-3383>
>>
>> Website: www.preservationmass.org
>>
>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/preservationma/
>>
>> Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/preservationmass/
>>
>> Twitter: twitter.com/preservationma
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Support our outreach and advocacy work statewide, join us today!
>> <http://www.preservationmass.org/membership>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Jackie Blombach <jdb.lily at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Follow the money - INDEED!
>>>
>>> Mass Save will give no interest loans for replacement windows and NOT
>>> for repairs:
>>>
>>> https://www.masssave.com/-/media/Files/PDFs/Save/Residential
>>> /HeatLoanRequirements_Windows_2018.pdf?la=en&hash=FA072D8481
>>> FA9627FBFA18797935F3F8426079FE
>>>
>>> As long as Tax Credits and programs like this one do not cover repair of
>>> historic windows, the window replacement lobbyists will
>>> continue to win the argument with consumers.
>>>
>>> Jackie Blombach
>>> J D B Preservation Services
>>> Taconic, CT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Elizabeth et all,
>>>
>>> Follow the money...
>>> The real rub here is that (at least a few years ago during a
>>> presentation at the annual MHC conference that was in Lexington) I went to
>>> a presentation on historic tax credits where it was stated that replacement
>>> windows qualified for tax credits but rebuilding existing windows did NOT
>>> qualify!
>>>
>>> If that has changed I would love to hear about it. If not, then your
>>> answer from the long time staff member at MHC needs to realize there are
>>> additional factors at work effectively nullifying their answer...
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Garrett Laws
>>>
>>> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
>>> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
>>> 238 Calvary Street,
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Office:
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781)
>>> 893-1916
>>>
>>> *LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*
>>>
>>>  Work we do:
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>  Where we've worked over the years:
>>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=2062
>>> 10316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.1268
>>> 62&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Joseph Cornish <
>>> joseph.cornish at boston.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What a lively discussion! In Boston most of the window replacement
>>>> applications we see are for the replacement of failing replacement windows.
>>>> ORIGINAL WINDOWS MUST BE PRESERVED! When we receive applications to replace
>>>> original wood windows we ask for documentation that the windows are
>>>> deteriorated beyond repair. This sometimes requires a site visit by staff
>>>> to look at the windows first-hand to determine condition. 99% of the time
>>>> it is determined that the windows can be repaired and replacement is denied.
>>>>
>>>> Joe Cornish
>>>> Director of Design Reivew
>>>> Boston Landmarks Commission
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farrington Family <
>>>> farringtonfamily1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello, I’m following this in the event I end up with another old house
>>>>> w/out storms.  At the old Grout Heard House in Wayland, we added
>>>>> Innerglass’s interior storm windows and are very happy with them.
>>>>> http://www.stormwindows.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Molly Faulkner*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wayland Museum & Historical Society *
>>>>>
>>>>> *GUIDED TOUR OF COLONIAL SUDBURY*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sunday, April 29, 2:00 pm *
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sudbury Town Hall*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wayland Schools Green Team*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mobile: 978-505-5912 <(978)%20505-5912>*
>>>>>
>>>>> *9 Bennett Road
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=9+Bennett+Road+Wayland,+MA+01778&entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wayland, MA 01778
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=9+Bennett+Road+Wayland,+MA+01778&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image: Seed packet]*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image:
>>>>> https://fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net/rsrc.php/v2/yi/r/mjR8ws1TKGd.png]*
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=346770018667026&set=a.158150850862278.36140.100000020932152&type=1&theater>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Garrett Laws
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2018 5:58 PM
>>>>> *To:* Nancy Dole
>>>>> *Cc:* masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nancy,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an age old problem and I’d say a large issue (not always
>>>>> addressed) is that manufacturers regularly change their model numbers etc.
>>>>> The other pressing issue is that there’s a larger lobby for the replacement
>>>>> window industry than the rebuild and add storms...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If the windows are built from old growth lumber, the house will never
>>>>> get that back again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Distributing a “list” of approved manufacturers is essentially rubber
>>>>> stamping the potential removal of all historic windows in the town, I’d be
>>>>> very careful with that approach.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Garrett Laws
>>>>>
>>>>> Copper & Slate Co
>>>>>
>>>>> Waltham, ma
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 15, 2018, Nancy Dole <nlouisedole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to provide owners with a list of replacement windows that we
>>>>> would consider suitable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Plymouth HDC has a list, which I have. They have a list of acceptable
>>>>> windows for properties they feel have great historic significance, and
>>>>> another list for properties that they think do not have historic
>>>>> significance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could anyone forward me a list if your district has one, or tell me
>>>>> what you have approved?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People in our district are more and more often requesting permission
>>>>> to replace existing wooden windows with aluminum clad or vinyl windows that
>>>>> are energy efficient. We are deciding as they come to us on a case by case
>>>>> basis, and its difficult for everyone involved. The applicant has no idea
>>>>> what we will accept, our only guideline is we prefer wooden windows and
>>>>> repairing existing windows. But that is not what  need to know, since for
>>>>> the most part they want to switch to modern materials etc. they do not want
>>>>> the wood windows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other owners are not aware we might ok alum clad etc, and so they
>>>>> don't apply for them. We need to address this in a responsible way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nancy Dole
>>>>>
>>>>> WTHDC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Garrett Laws
>>>>>
>>>>> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
>>>>> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
>>>>> 238 Calvary Street,
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> Office:
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781)
>>>>> 893-1916
>>>>>
>>>>> *LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Work we do:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-e
>>>>> NvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9Xd
>>>>> HlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B
>>>>>
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>>>>> cAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDY
>>>>> VhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR
>>>>>
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>>>>> VZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Where we've worked over the years:
>>>>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=2062
>>>>> 10316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.1268
>>>>> 62&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Garrett Laws
>
> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
> 238 Calvary Street,
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Waltham, MA 02453
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Office:
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781)
> 893-1916
>
> *LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*
>
>  Work we do:
>
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-
> eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=
> X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B
>
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNIUYHEIsrRiwNl4Qyoi1ClcA
> ix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=
> cXNLN2tRbDJDYVhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR
>
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--
> r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=
> X3BXeDVuY3hXaVZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB
>
>  Where we've worked over the years:
> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=
> 206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.
> 40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12
>
>
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