[MassHistPres] replacement windows

[Garrett Laws]

Stacia,

I see that your address is in Plymouth. Can you comment on how things are
going in Plymouth as they say they have a list of appropriate
windows/manufacturers?

Garrett
Copper & Slate
(781) 893-1916

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, Stacia Caplanson <
scaplanson at preservationmass.org> wrote:

> I wanted to jump into the conversation and share with you three resource
> documents that you might find helpful.
>
>
> The first is a bibliography of links to articles which make the case for
> repair rather than replacement of historic windows, address the
> philosophical, ecological, environmental, reasons as well as present data
> on energy efficiency. The second is a list of window repair shops in New
> England. The third is a list compiled by Jade Mortimer, of products she
> uses in her window repair work.   Here is a link to all of the PDF
> documents, which can be downloaded and printed:
>
> https://www.preservationmass.org/windows
>
>
>
> It is my belief that the more information we have to share with owners of
> historic buildings, private individuals and municipalities, the better we
> are equipped to counter the arguments presented by the vinyl replacement
> window industry.
>
>
> All my best,
> Stacia
>
> Stacia Caplanson
>
> Preservation Circuit Rider for Central and Western MA
>
> Preservation Massachusetts
>
> 617-999-3256
>
> scaplanson at preservationmass.org
>
> The Landmark Building
>
> 34 Main Street Extension, Suite 401
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Plymouth, MA 02360
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
>
>
>
> Office:
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=34+Main+Street+Extension,+Suite+401+Plymouth,+MA+02360+Office:%C2%A0+617&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 617-723-3383 <(617)%20723-3383>
>
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> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Jackie Blombach <jdb.lily at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Follow the money - INDEED!
>>
>> Mass Save will give no interest loans for replacement windows and NOT for
>> repairs:
>>
>> https://www.masssave.com/-/media/Files/PDFs/Save/Residential
>> /HeatLoanRequirements_Windows_2018.pdf?la=en&hash=FA072D8481
>> FA9627FBFA18797935F3F8426079FE
>>
>> As long as Tax Credits and programs like this one do not cover repair of
>> historic windows, the window replacement lobbyists will
>> continue to win the argument with consumers.
>>
>> Jackie Blombach
>> J D B Preservation Services
>> Taconic, CT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth et all,
>>
>> Follow the money...
>> The real rub here is that (at least a few years ago during a presentation
>> at the annual MHC conference that was in Lexington) I went to a
>> presentation on historic tax credits where it was stated that replacement
>> windows qualified for tax credits but rebuilding existing windows did NOT
>> qualify!
>>
>> If that has changed I would love to hear about it. If not, then your
>> answer from the long time staff member at MHC needs to realize there are
>> additional factors at work effectively nullifying their answer...
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Garrett Laws
>>
>> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
>> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
>> 238 Calvary Street,
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Waltham, MA 02453
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Office:
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781)
>> 893-1916
>>
>> *LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*
>>
>>  Work we do:
>>
>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-e
>> NvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9Xd
>> HlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B
>>
>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNIUYHEIsrRiwNl4Qyoi1Cl
>> cAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDY
>> VhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR
>>
>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--
>> r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=X3BXeDVuY3hXa
>> VZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB
>>
>>  Where we've worked over the years:
>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=2062
>> 10316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.
>> 126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Joseph Cornish <
>> joseph.cornish at boston.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> What a lively discussion! In Boston most of the window replacement
>>> applications we see are for the replacement of failing replacement windows.
>>> ORIGINAL WINDOWS MUST BE PRESERVED! When we receive applications to replace
>>> original wood windows we ask for documentation that the windows are
>>> deteriorated beyond repair. This sometimes requires a site visit by staff
>>> to look at the windows first-hand to determine condition. 99% of the time
>>> it is determined that the windows can be repaired and replacement is denied.
>>>
>>> Joe Cornish
>>> Director of Design Reivew
>>> Boston Landmarks Commission
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farrington Family <
>>> farringtonfamily1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, I’m following this in the event I end up with another old house
>>>> w/out storms.  At the old Grout Heard House in Wayland, we added
>>>> Innerglass’s interior storm windows and are very happy with them.
>>>> http://www.stormwindows.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Molly Faulkner*
>>>>
>>>> *Wayland Museum & Historical Society *
>>>>
>>>> *GUIDED TOUR OF COLONIAL SUDBURY*
>>>>
>>>> *Sunday, April 29, 2:00 pm *
>>>>
>>>> *Sudbury Town Hall*
>>>>
>>>> *Wayland Schools Green Team*
>>>>
>>>> *Mobile: 978-505-5912 <(978)%20505-5912>*
>>>>
>>>> *9 Bennett Road
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=9+Bennett+Road+Wayland,+MA+01778&entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>
>>>> *Wayland, MA 01778
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=9+Bennett+Road+Wayland,+MA+01778&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *[image: Seed packet]*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[image:
>>>> https://fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net/rsrc.php/v2/yi/r/mjR8ws1TKGd.png]*
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=346770018667026&set=a.158150850862278.36140.100000020932152&type=1&theater>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Garrett Laws
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2018 5:58 PM
>>>> *To:* Nancy Dole
>>>> *Cc:* masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nancy,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is an age old problem and I’d say a large issue (not always
>>>> addressed) is that manufacturers regularly change their model numbers etc.
>>>> The other pressing issue is that there’s a larger lobby for the replacement
>>>> window industry than the rebuild and add storms...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the windows are built from old growth lumber, the house will never
>>>> get that back again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Distributing a “list” of approved manufacturers is essentially rubber
>>>> stamping the potential removal of all historic windows in the town, I’d be
>>>> very careful with that approach.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Garrett Laws
>>>>
>>>> Copper & Slate Co
>>>>
>>>> Waltham, ma
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 15, 2018, Nancy Dole <nlouisedole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We need to provide owners with a list of replacement windows that we
>>>> would consider suitable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Plymouth HDC has a list, which I have. They have a list of acceptable
>>>> windows for properties they feel have great historic significance, and
>>>> another list for properties that they think do not have historic
>>>> significance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could anyone forward me a list if your district has one, or tell me
>>>> what you have approved?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People in our district are more and more often requesting permission to
>>>> replace existing wooden windows with aluminum clad or vinyl windows that
>>>> are energy efficient. We are deciding as they come to us on a case by case
>>>> basis, and its difficult for everyone involved. The applicant has no idea
>>>> what we will accept, our only guideline is we prefer wooden windows and
>>>> repairing existing windows. But that is not what  need to know, since for
>>>> the most part they want to switch to modern materials etc. they do not want
>>>> the wood windows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other owners are not aware we might ok alum clad etc, and so they don't
>>>> apply for them. We need to address this in a responsible way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Nancy Dole
>>>>
>>>> WTHDC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Garrett Laws
>>>>
>>>> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
>>>> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
>>>> 238 Calvary Street,
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> Office:
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781)
>>>> 893-1916
>>>>
>>>> *LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Work we do:
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-e
>>>> NvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9Xd
>>>> HlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B
>>>>
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>>>> cAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDY
>>>> VhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--
>>>> r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=X3BXeDVuY3hXa
>>>> VZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Where we've worked over the years:
>>>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=2062
>>>> 10316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.1268
>>>> 62&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> Please check our website for information.*
>>>
>>>
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>>> Director of Design Review
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-- 

Cheers,
Garrett Laws

The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
238 Calvary Street,
Waltham, MA 02453
Office: (781) 893-1916

*LEAD FREE SINCE 2008*

 Work we do:

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 Where we've worked over the years:
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