[MassHistPres] replacement windows

[jworden at swwalaw.com]

In Arlington, we require that applicants obtain information from a restoration window company before allowing substitute windows, using all the arguments that have been presented in this chain.  W e specifically do not allow an aluminum or vinyl clad windows.  In some rare basement situations, we have allowed composite windows because of the rot problem.John WordenArlington HDC



------- Original Message -------
>From    : heartwood[mailto:jade at heartwoodrestoration.com]
Sent    : 3/17/2018 7:55:07 PM
To      : copperandslate at gmail.com; nlouisedole at gmail.com
Cc      : masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
Subject : RE: Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows

 


I am in agreement with the feedback that has been offered thus far...
we 
in the window restoration trade have our work cut out for us as we
are not equipped with deep pockets for marketing our superior product 

and counter the hyperbole of the window replacement salesman...
 
at one ‘historic’ trade show years ago, pella windows was set up next 
to
my booth...they had a full sized sample window on one side of their 
area
and a sign that stated ‘you will never see finger jointed wood in our 
product’ on 
the other...and there it was, clear as a knot, a finger jointed frame clad 
with polyvinyl
chloride (vinyl)!  sure, once the window was installed the homeowner 
couldn’t
‘see’ the finger jointed wood but it was there...we’ve all seen the foggy 
double pane
glass in newer windows, where wonderful old wood windows once graced 
the
building not 25 years prior...
 
windows are such an essential character of an old home...they exist for 
generations
with grace and utility...keep your business local and hire a craftsperson 
who can make
your windows energy efficient and ready for another century of use with not 
so regular 
maintenance...
 
nancy, I understand this can be a challenging position for historic 
commissions when a 
homeowner has drunk the replacement kool-aid...we need to continue 
educating folks
about the long term costs of replacement windows...
 
https://www.forthepeople.com/class-action-lawyers/pella-windows-lawsuit/
https://www.bobvila.com/posts/21056-rotting-mw-windows?page=1
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2010/03/22/daily46.html
 
jade mortimer
heartwood window restoration
po box 
114 1605 mohawk trail
charlemont, ma 
01339
413-625-8680


 

From: Garrett Laws 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:57 PM
To: Nancy Dole 
Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu 
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows
 
Nancy, 

 
This is an age old problem and I’d say a large issue (not always addressed) 
is that manufacturers regularly change their model numbers etc. The other 
pressing issue is that there’s a larger lobby for the replacement window 
industry than the rebuild and add storms...
 
If the windows are built from old growth lumber, the house will never get 
that back again. 
 
Distributing a “list” of approved manufacturers is essentially rubber 
stamping the potential removal of all historic windows in the town, I’d be very 
careful with that approach. 
 
Garrett Laws
Copper & Slate Co
Waltham, ma

On Thursday, March 15, 2018, Nancy Dole <nlouisedole at gmail.com> wrote:


  We need to provide owners with a list of replacement windows that 
  we would consider suitable.  
   
  Plymouth HDC has a list, which I have. They have a list of acceptable 
  windows for properties they feel have great historic significance, and another 
  list for properties that they think do not have historic significance.
   
  Could anyone forward me a list if your district has one, or tell me what 
  you have approved? 
   
  People in our district are more and more often requesting permission to 
  replace existing wooden windows with aluminum clad or vinyl windows that are 
  energy efficient. We are deciding as they come to us on a case by case basis, 
  and its difficult for everyone involved. The applicant has no idea what we 
  will accept, our only guideline is we prefer wooden windows and repairing 
  existing windows. But that is not what  need to know, since for the most 
  part they want to switch to modern materials etc. they do not want the wood 
  windows. 
   
  Other owners are not aware we might ok alum clad etc, and so they don't 
  apply for them. We need to address this in a responsible way.
   
  Thanks, 
  Nancy Dole
  WTHDC
   
   

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Cheers,
Garrett Laws

The Copper & Slate Company, 
Inc.
Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
238 Calvary 
Street,
Waltham, MA 02453

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