[MassHistPres] replacement windows

Jackie Blombach jdb.lily at comcast.net
Mon Mar 19 15:57:40 EDT 2018
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Follow the money - INDEED!

Mass Save will give no interest loans for replacement windows and NOT for repairs:

https://www.masssave.com/-/media/Files/PDFs/Save/Residential/HeatLoanRequirements_Windows_2018.pdf?la=en&hash=FA072D8481FA9627FBFA18797935F3F8426079FE <https://www.masssave.com/-/media/Files/PDFs/Save/Residential/HeatLoanRequirements_Windows_2018.pdf?la=en&hash=FA072D8481FA9627FBFA18797935F3F8426079FE>

As long as Tax Credits and programs like this one do not cover repair of historic windows, the window replacement lobbyists will
continue to win the argument with consumers.

Jackie Blombach
J D B Preservation Services
Taconic, CT





On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Elizabeth et all,
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> Follow the money... 
> The real rub here is that (at least a few years ago during a presentation at the annual MHC conference that was in Lexington) I went to a presentation on historic tax credits where it was stated that replacement windows qualified for tax credits but rebuilding existing windows did NOT qualify!
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> If that has changed I would love to hear about it. If not, then your answer from the long time staff member at MHC needs to realize there are additional factors at work effectively nullifying their answer...
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> Good luck,
> Garrett Laws
> 
> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
> 238 Calvary Street,
> Waltham, MA 02453
> Office: (781) 893-1916
> 
> LEAD FREE SINCE 2008
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>  Work we do:
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> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B>
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> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNIUYHEIsrRiwNl4Qyoi1ClcAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDYVhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNIUYHEIsrRiwNl4Qyoi1ClcAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDYVhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR>
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> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=X3BXeDVuY3hXaVZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=X3BXeDVuY3hXaVZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB>
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>  Where we've worked over the years:
> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12 <http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Joseph Cornish <joseph.cornish at boston.gov <mailto:joseph.cornish at boston.gov>> wrote:
> What a lively discussion! In Boston most of the window replacement applications we see are for the replacement of failing replacement windows. ORIGINAL WINDOWS MUST BE PRESERVED! When we receive applications to replace original wood windows we ask for documentation that the windows are deteriorated beyond repair. This sometimes requires a site visit by staff to look at the windows first-hand to determine condition. 99% of the time it is determined that the windows can be repaired and replacement is denied.
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> Joe Cornish
> Director of Design Reivew
> Boston Landmarks Commission
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> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farrington Family <farringtonfamily1 at verizon.net <mailto:farringtonfamily1 at verizon.net>> wrote:
> Hello, I’m following this in the event I end up with another old house w/out storms.  At the old Grout Heard House in Wayland, we added Innerglass’s interior storm windows and are very happy with them. http://www.stormwindows.com/ <http://www.stormwindows.com/>
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> Molly Faulkner
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> Wayland Museum & Historical Society
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> GUIDED TOUR OF COLONIAL SUDBURY
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> Sunday, April 29, 2:00 pm
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> Sudbury Town Hall
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> Wayland Schools Green Team
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> Mobile: 978-505-5912 <tel:(978)%20505-5912>
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> From: MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu <mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu>] On Behalf Of Garrett Laws
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:58 PM
> To: Nancy Dole
> Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu <mailto:masshistpres at cs.umb.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows
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> Nancy,
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> This is an age old problem and I’d say a large issue (not always addressed) is that manufacturers regularly change their model numbers etc. The other pressing issue is that there’s a larger lobby for the replacement window industry than the rebuild and add storms...
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> If the windows are built from old growth lumber, the house will never get that back again. 
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> Distributing a “list” of approved manufacturers is essentially rubber stamping the potential removal of all historic windows in the town, I’d be very careful with that approach. 
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> Garrett Laws
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> Copper & Slate Co
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> Waltham, ma
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> On Thursday, March 15, 2018, Nancy Dole <nlouisedole at gmail.com <mailto:nlouisedole at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> We need to provide owners with a list of replacement windows that we would consider suitable. 
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> Plymouth HDC has a list, which I have. They have a list of acceptable windows for properties they feel have great historic significance, and another list for properties that they think do not have historic significance.
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> Could anyone forward me a list if your district has one, or tell me what you have approved? 
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> People in our district are more and more often requesting permission to replace existing wooden windows with aluminum clad or vinyl windows that are energy efficient. We are deciding as they come to us on a case by case basis, and its difficult for everyone involved. The applicant has no idea what we will accept, our only guideline is we prefer wooden windows and repairing existing windows. But that is not what  need to know, since for the most part they want to switch to modern materials etc. they do not want the wood windows. 
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> Other owners are not aware we might ok alum clad etc, and so they don't apply for them. We need to address this in a responsible way.
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> Thanks, 
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> Nancy Dole
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> WTHDC
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> Cheers,
> Garrett Laws
> 
> The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
> Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
> 238 Calvary Street, <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Waltham, MA 02453 <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Office:  <https://maps.google.com/?q=238+Calvary+Street,+Waltham,+MA+02453+Office:++(781&entry=gmail&source=g>(781) 893-1916 <tel:(781)%20893-1916>
> LEAD FREE SINCE 2008
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>  Work we do:
> 
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B>
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>  Where we've worked over the years:
> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12 <http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12>
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