[MassHistPres] replacement windows

heartwood jade at heartwoodrestoration.com
Tue Mar 20 21:22:35 EDT 2018


I just sent off a letter to ‘massave’ inquiring about no interest loans for making old windows as—or more—energy efficient than
replacements....I’ll let you know what I hear back...
....jade

jade mortimer
heartwood window restoration
po box 114 1605 mohawk trail
charlemont, ma 01339
413-625-8680

From: Jackie Blombach 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:57 PM
To: Garrett Laws 
Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu 
Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows

Follow the money - INDEED! 

Mass Save will give no interest loans for replacement windows and NOT for repairs:

https://www.masssave.com/-/media/Files/PDFs/Save/Residential/HeatLoanRequirements_Windows_2018.pdf?la=en&hash=FA072D8481FA9627FBFA18797935F3F8426079FE

As long as Tax Credits and programs like this one do not cover repair of historic windows, the window replacement lobbyists will
continue to win the argument with consumers.

Jackie Blombach
J D B Preservation Services
Taconic, CT





On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Garrett Laws <copperandslate at gmail.com> wrote: 


  Elizabeth et all,


  Follow the money... 

  The real rub here is that (at least a few years ago during a presentation at the annual MHC conference that was in Lexington) I went to a presentation on historic tax credits where it was stated that replacement windows qualified for tax credits but rebuilding existing windows did NOT qualify!


  If that has changed I would love to hear about it. If not, then your answer from the long time staff member at MHC needs to realize there are additional factors at work effectively nullifying their answer...


  Good luck,

  Garrett Laws

  The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
  Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
  238 Calvary Street,
  Waltham, MA 02453

  Office: (781) 893-1916


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  On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Joseph Cornish <joseph.cornish at boston.gov> wrote:

    What a lively discussion! In Boston most of the window replacement applications we see are for the replacement of failing replacement windows. ORIGINAL WINDOWS MUST BE PRESERVED! When we receive applications to replace original wood windows we ask for documentation that the windows are deteriorated beyond repair. This sometimes requires a site visit by staff to look at the windows first-hand to determine condition. 99% of the time it is determined that the windows can be repaired and replacement is denied. 

    Joe Cornish
    Director of Design Reivew
    Boston Landmarks Commission

    On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farrington Family <farringtonfamily1 at verizon.net> wrote:

      Hello, I’m following this in the event I end up with another old house w/out storms.  At the old Grout Heard House in Wayland, we added Innerglass’s interior storm windows and are very happy with them. http://www.stormwindows.com/









      Molly Faulkner

      Wayland Museum & Historical Society 

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      From: MassHistPres [mailto:masshistpres-bounces at cs.umb.edu] On Behalf Of Garrett Laws
      Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:58 PM
      To: Nancy Dole
      Cc: masshistpres at cs.umb.edu
      Subject: Re: [MassHistPres] replacement windows



      Nancy,



      This is an age old problem and I’d say a large issue (not always addressed) is that manufacturers regularly change their model numbers etc. The other pressing issue is that there’s a larger lobby for the replacement window industry than the rebuild and add storms...



      If the windows are built from old growth lumber, the house will never get that back again. 



      Distributing a “list” of approved manufacturers is essentially rubber stamping the potential removal of all historic windows in the town, I’d be very careful with that approach. 



      Garrett Laws

      Copper & Slate Co

      Waltham, ma

      On Thursday, March 15, 2018, Nancy Dole <nlouisedole at gmail.com> wrote:

      We need to provide owners with a list of replacement windows that we would consider suitable. 



      Plymouth HDC has a list, which I have. They have a list of acceptable windows for properties they feel have great historic significance, and another list for properties that they think do not have historic significance.



      Could anyone forward me a list if your district has one, or tell me what you have approved? 



      People in our district are more and more often requesting permission to replace existing wooden windows with aluminum clad or vinyl windows that are energy efficient. We are deciding as they come to us on a case by case basis, and its difficult for everyone involved. The applicant has no idea what we will accept, our only guideline is we prefer wooden windows and repairing existing windows. But that is not what  need to know, since for the most part they want to switch to modern materials etc. they do not want the wood windows. 



      Other owners are not aware we might ok alum clad etc, and so they don't apply for them. We need to address this in a responsible way.



      Thanks, 

      Nancy Dole

      WTHDC







      -- 



      Cheers,
      Garrett Laws

      The Copper & Slate Company, Inc.
      Fine Roofing and Exterior Finish Carpentry
      238 Calvary Street,
      Waltham, MA 02453

      Office: (781) 893-1916

      LEAD FREE SINCE 2008


      Work we do:

      https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP25cjZU2PWmMSCvOwtzV-eNvpIKsod3KMlgk-lQjkxQX0vvAtOaHR-cPAJhjBJIA?key=X1ZWZENYQV9XdHlydjZwZWZYdlZnVEVTSkdmQk5B

      https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNIUYHEIsrRiwNl4Qyoi1ClcAix-J_fcjxkUBoNdC2JLVesjq--Apn8RfkLoH2TPA?key=cXNLN2tRbDJDYVhCeGd0UmxDS01ZdlplSUhIdHhR

      https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOvDwOwOK9RTEX0AH18Y4--r3jmEP23luuSsboZQTay1hWl2DYvkPlXirhc6uOryg?key=X3BXeDVuY3hXaVZvLUE0YkxDTjhBc0s0VjhFZzhB


      Where we've worked over the years:
      http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206210316541901083869.00049065ef8543e1ef9c3&ll=42.40115,-71.126862&spn=0.125241,0.289421&t=h&z=12




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